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| 00:14:17 | <dajobe> | A:I think this is out of dated, Ivan said something about deprecating it |
| 00:14:27 | <dajobe> | A2:I think this is out of date, Ivan said something about deprecating it |
| 06:37:20 | <mhausenblas> | morning Web of Data |
| 08:06:14 | <tobyink> | Only an hour until awesomeness arrives! |
| 08:08:07 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION very very excited - looking forward! |
| 08:10:47 | <libby> | what is awesomness arriving? |
| 08:15:22 | <keithA> | what's happening? |
| 08:16:50 | <tobyink> | I'm just overhyping. |
| 08:17:12 | <tobyink> | It should arrive at 09:06 (UTC) 09/06/09. |
| 08:18:53 | <keithA> | what should? |
| 08:19:05 | <libby> | heh |
| 08:19:28 | <keithA> | Gabo is coming ... |
| 08:20:21 | <tobyink> | Gabo is coming - indeed, much like that. |
| 09:00:51 | <mhausenblas> | tobyink: ETA is 6min, right? |
| 09:01:19 | <tobyink> | Indeed. |
| 09:01:22 | <mhausenblas> | cool |
| 09:05:01 | <mhausenblas> | 60s |
| 09:06:07 | <kjetilkWork> | ACTION is shivering in anticipation |
| 09:06:08 | <tobyink> | logger, pointer |
| 09:06:08 | <logger> | See http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2009-06-09#T10-06-06-1 |
| 09:06:15 | <tobyink> | http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2009-06-09#T10-06-06-1 |
| 09:06:21 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION too |
| 09:06:32 | <tobyink> | B:|Introducing the MicroTurtle Robot! |
| 09:06:53 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: I'm <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/#i> |
| 09:07:19 | <tobyink> | She can be a bit slow sometimes. |
| 09:07:25 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/#i> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/tobyink,isnick> . |
| 09:07:25 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/> with 89 triples. |
| 09:07:30 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, hiya |
| 09:07:30 | <mttlbot> | Hiya to you too tobyink. |
| 09:07:35 | <tobyink> | .whoami |
| 09:07:36 | <mttlbot> | tobyink is Toby Inkster <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/#i>. WWW: <http://alpha.libre.fm/user/tobyink>, <http://identi.ca/tobyink>, <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/>. |
| 09:07:42 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, mhausenblas would be <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i> |
| 09:07:46 | <mhausenblas> | mttlbot: I'm <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i> |
| 09:08:02 | <kjetilkWork> | mttlbot: I'm <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me> |
| 09:08:17 | <kjetilkWork> | lets DDoS her! ;-) |
| 09:08:22 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/mhausenblas,isnick> . |
| 09:08:22 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml> with 87 triples. |
| 09:08:22 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/mhausenblas,isnick> . |
| 09:08:22 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml> with 87 triples. |
| 09:08:22 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/kjetilkWork,isnick> . |
| 09:08:23 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf> with 357 triples. |
| 09:08:29 | <tobyink> | .whois mhausenblas |
| 09:08:29 | <mttlbot> | mhausenblas is Michael Hausenblas <http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i>. WWW: <http://sw-app.org/about.html>. |
| 09:08:36 | <tobyink> | It knows who mhausenblas and I are, so I can say... #mttl <#me> foaf:name "Toby" ; foaf:knows <@mhausenblas> . |
| 09:08:37 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Internal Server Error [INSERT DATA INTO <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244538516.4270> { <http://buzzw...] |
| 09:08:38 | <mhausenblas> | wow |
| 09:08:47 | <tobyink> | dammit. need to fix that. |
| 09:08:52 | <mhausenblas> | ups ;) |
| 09:08:58 | <tobyink> | .sub <http://swig.xmlhack.com/index.rss> |
| 09:08:59 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Subscribed to <http://swig.xmlhack.com/index.rss>. |
| 09:08:59 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://swig.xmlhack.com/index.rss> with 25 triples. |
| 09:09:00 | <mhausenblas> | well done tobyink |
| 09:09:08 | <tobyink> | .sparql PREFIX s: <http://ontologi.es/subscriptions#> SELECT ?url ?fetched WHERE { [] a s:Subscription ; s:subscribed_url ?url ; s:last_fetch ?fetched } |
| 09:09:08 | <mttlbot> | url=<http://swig.xmlhack.com/index.rss>; fetched="2009-06-09T09:08:59Z" |
| 09:09:12 | <kjetilkWork> | yup! |
| 09:09:23 | <tobyink> | That feed has now been subscribed, and will be reloaded on a regular basis. |
| 09:09:28 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION looking forward reading the documentation ;) |
| 09:09:28 | <tobyink> | .load <http://purl.org/NET/book/isbn/0062515861> |
| 09:09:31 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://purl.org/NET/book/isbn/0062515861> with 47 triples. |
| 09:09:36 | <tobyink> | That was just a one-time load, not a subscription. |
| 09:09:42 | <tobyink> | mttlbot is awesome |
| 09:09:42 | <mttlbot> | Yes, I like to think so. |
| 09:09:57 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, what's the answer to life, the universe and everything? |
| 09:09:57 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: 42. |
| 09:10:04 | <kjetilkWork> | ACTION pats mttlbot and tobyink on the back |
| 09:10:07 | <mhausenblas> | hehe, good bot |
| 09:10:10 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, help |
| 09:10:10 | <mttlbot> | I am a bot. My owner is tobyink. |
| 09:10:10 | <mttlbot> | I read MicroTurtle <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec> in this channel and store them for later queries. |
| 09:10:10 | <mttlbot> | Commands: |
| 09:10:10 | <mttlbot> | .drop <graph> = Drop graph from storage. |
| 09:10:10 | <mttlbot> | .graphs = List of graphs. |
| 09:10:12 | <mttlbot> | .load <uri> = Read RDF and store as a graph. |
| 09:10:15 | <mttlbot> | .sparql <query> = Run SPARQL Query on my quad store. |
| 09:10:18 | <mttlbot> | .sparul <script> = Run SPARQL Update on my quad store. |
| 09:10:20 | <mttlbot> | .sub <feed> = Subscribe to an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 09:10:22 | <mttlbot> | .unsub <feed> = Unsubscribe from an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 09:10:25 | <mttlbot> | .whoami = One of life's big questions. |
| 09:10:28 | <mttlbot> | .whois <nick> = Who is this person? |
| 09:10:30 | <mttlbot> | Introduce yourself like this: 'mttlbot, I am <someWebID>'. |
| 09:10:51 | <tobyink> | Anyway, that's the big demo. |
| 09:10:57 | <kjetilkWork> | :-) |
| 09:10:57 | <mhausenblas> | cool! |
| 09:11:01 | <mhausenblas> | tobyink++ |
| 09:11:22 | <tobyink> | The really cool feature is the one which didn't work - parsing MicroTurtle from this channel and adding it to the quad store. |
| 09:12:07 | <tobyink> | .sparql SELECT ?name WHERE {<http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> ?name } |
| 09:12:07 | <mttlbot> | name="Kjetil Kjernsmo" |
| 09:12:28 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, about |
| 09:12:28 | <mttlbot> | The MicroTurtle Robot 0.1.0 |
| 09:12:29 | <mttlbot> | Jena 2.6.0, SDB 1.3.0 RC3, Joseki 3.4.0 |
| 09:12:29 | <mttlbot> | RDF::Redland 1.0.5.4, Redland 1.0.9, Raptor 1.4.18 |
| 09:12:29 | <mttlbot> | RDF::RDFa::Parser 0.11 |
| 09:12:29 | <mttlbot> | POE::Component::IRC 6.08 |
| 09:12:30 | <mttlbot> | Perl v5.10.0 |
| 09:12:33 | <mttlbot> | Linux ophelia2.g5n.co.uk 2.6.24.7-server-2mnb #1 SMP Thu Oct 30 14:50:37 EDT 2008 x86_64 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz GNU/Linux |
| 09:16:58 | <tobyink> | #mttl <#me> foaf:name "Toby" ; foaf:knows <@mhausenblas> . |
| 09:16:58 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Graph saved as <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244539018.5547>. |
| 09:17:06 | <tobyink> | Awesome. |
| 09:17:34 | <kjetilkWork> | yeah |
| 09:17:41 | <mhausenblas> | cool |
| 09:17:53 | <tobyink> | .sparql SELECT * WHERE { <http://tobyinkster.co.uk/#i> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> ?person } |
| 09:17:53 | <mttlbot> | person=<http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i> |
| 09:18:09 | <mhausenblas> | see. works ;) |
| 09:18:37 | <mhausenblas> | #mttl <#me> foaf:knows <@tobyink> . |
| 09:18:38 | <mttlbot> | mhausenblas: Graph saved as <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/mhausenblas/1244539117.6364>. |
| 09:18:53 | <tobyink> | .sparql construct {?s ?p ?o} where {graph <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244539018.5547> {?s ?p ?o}} |
| 09:18:53 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Internal Server Error [construct {?s ?p ?o} where {graph <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244539018.5547...] |
| 09:19:03 | <mhausenblas> | .sparql SELECT * WHERE { ?who <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> ?whom } |
| 09:19:04 | <mttlbot> | who=<http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me>; whom=<http://foafbuilder.qdos.com/people/piaj.blogspot.com/foaf.rdf#me> |
| 09:19:05 | <mttlbot> | who=<http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i>; whom=<http://www.deri.ie/about/team/member/Stefan_Decker#me> |
| 09:19:05 | <mttlbot> | who=<http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i>; whom=<http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i> |
| 09:19:05 | <mttlbot> | who=<http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i>; whom=<http://www.leobard.net/rdf/foaf.xml#me> |
| 09:19:06 | <mttlbot> | who=<http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i>; whom=<http://id.ecs.soton.ac.uk/person/3489> |
| 09:19:09 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/f2ac5f05b43b7f9eda214f3bcad4f92659ca35df> (52 results total). |
| 09:19:12 | <mhausenblas> | some stress testing :D |
| 09:19:16 | <mhausenblas> | very clever |
| 09:19:28 | <tobyink> | Returns a maximum of 5 results to the channel. |
| 09:19:31 | <kjetilkWork> | hehe |
| 09:19:34 | <mhausenblas> | good design |
| 09:19:53 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION can't get it down with his naive approach :) |
| 09:20:05 | <tobyink> | .sparql ASK WHERE { ?who <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> ?whom } |
| 09:20:05 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Yes |
| 09:20:06 | <mhausenblas> | danja: play time! |
| 09:20:21 | <mhausenblas> | danja, scroll back ... |
| 09:20:57 | <tobyink> | There is also a #mttlbot-testing channel to play in if you want to avoid annoying people here. |
| 09:21:04 | <mhausenblas> | good idea, yeah |
| 09:21:19 | <tobyink> | It's the same instance, so any knowledge it picks up in one channel is available in the other. |
| 09:22:56 | <mhausenblas> | very well |
| 09:25:15 | <danja> | eek! gotta run for a train - biab |
| 09:25:32 | <mhausenblas> | danja: good luck |
| 09:51:18 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, make like a tree |
| 09:57:14 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, go away |
| 10:03:04 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, bblfish is <http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me> |
| 10:03:07 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/bblfish,isnick> . |
| 10:03:07 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card> with 305 triples. |
| 10:22:12 | <bblfish_> | I wonder what mttlbot does |
| 10:22:59 | <tobyink> | bblfish, see http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2009-06-09#T10-06-06-1 |
| 10:23:27 | <tobyink> | .whois bblfish |
| 10:23:27 | <mttlbot> | bblfish is Henry J. Story <http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me>. WWW: <http://bblfish.net/>. |
| 10:23:38 | <shellac_> | try 'mttlbot, help' |
| 10:23:44 | <shellac_> | (in logs) |
| 10:24:03 | <tobyink> | .sparql ask where { <http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me> foaf:name "Henry J. Story" } |
| 10:24:04 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Yes |
| 10:25:42 | <tobyink> | .sparql select ?blog where {<http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me> foaf:weblog ?blog } |
| 10:25:43 | <mttlbot> | blog=<http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/> |
| 10:25:43 | <mttlbot> | blog=<http://www.flickr.com/photos/bblfish/> |
| 10:25:43 | <mttlbot> | blog=<http://del.icio.us/bblfish> |
| 10:25:43 | <mttlbot> | blog=<http://bblfish.net/blog/> |
| 10:30:00 | <crisb2010> | hi there |
| 10:35:22 | <bblfish_> | tobyink, cool :-) |
| 10:36:10 | <bblfish> | anyone know who the gentleman on the left of this photo is? http://www.flickr.com/photos/gromgull/3608938172/ |
| 10:45:40 | <libby> | tobyink you could try adding templated queries - e.g. http://planb.nicecupoftea.org/2004/09/14/whwhwhwh-wh4/ |
| 10:51:58 | <danbri> | anyone know how to hack http://xmpppy.sourceforge.net/examples/README.py to work with google talk? |
| 10:52:23 | <danbri> | new to py and to this api and rusty on some details of xmpp too (eg SRV records in DNS) but hoping i can make a quick demo during a f2f meeting... |
| 10:52:26 | <danbri> | any help welcome :) |
| 10:58:50 | <tobyink> | libby: something like that seems possible. |
| 11:02:48 | <tobyink> | One thing I think mttlbot could be really useful would be to create a SKOS dictionary of different semweb topics, tag articles with them, tell it which people are experts at those topics, etc. Then if you need an answer to a question, it should be able to help you find someone who knows. |
| 11:50:46 | <susscorf1> | is there a way in a xsd schema to override the type defined by a other schema? |
| 12:23:10 | <Anchakor> | susscorf1: you mean rdfs:subClassOf? |
| 12:26:09 | <susscorf1> | i dont think so Anchakor , example some schema defines a element "sex" with type "xs:string" i want to refer to this schema but not make sex a string but one of "Male" "Female" |
| 12:27:44 | <bblfish> | .sparql select ?p where {<http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me> foaf:knows ?p } |
| 12:27:46 | <mttlbot> | p=<http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/Personen/viewPersonOWL/id2076instance> |
| 12:27:47 | <mttlbot> | p=<http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/people/libby/rdfweb/webwho.xrdf#me> |
| 12:27:47 | <mttlbot> | p=<http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i> |
| 12:27:47 | <mttlbot> | p=<http://www.semantic-web.at/people/blumauer/card#me> |
| 12:27:47 | <mttlbot> | p=<http://dblp.l3s.de/d2r/page/authors/Christian_Bizer> |
| 12:27:50 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/7b2a011419e7e1cc1d38ee65917b0f1163b26a3b> (53 results total). |
| 12:28:02 | <bblfish> | fun :-) |
| 12:42:05 | <bblfish> | Again, anyone know who the man is to the left in this picture http://www.flickr.com/photos/gromgull/3608938172/ ? |
| 12:42:23 | <bblfish> | I think he organises SemTech San Jose, or has something to do with it |
| 12:43:02 | <gromgull> | Hmm - that's very dark - I should have adjusted the exposure |
| 12:45:56 | <tobyink> | bblfish: is he the same guy as the middle one here? http://i.cmpnet.com/electronics/news/090404semtech.jpg |
| 12:46:49 | <bblfish> | tobyink: could be the same |
| 12:46:56 | <bblfish> | owl:couldbetheSame |
| 12:47:35 | <kjetilkWork> | yeah, that's a property we could use :-) |
| 12:48:05 | <bblfish> | of course being counterfactual, it becomes a modal logical property |
| 12:48:34 | <bblfish> | though in this case I suppose owl:resembles would be good |
| 12:48:57 | <tobyink> | well, that guy is apparently called Tony Frere - http://eetimes.eu/uk/19202508 |
| 12:50:16 | <tobyink> | though I think that's the wrong semtech. |
| 12:51:08 | <bblfish> | mhh, yes, something does not seem right :-) |
| 12:51:22 | <Anchakor> | susscorf1: than make a new element |
| 12:51:47 | <bblfish> | No, I think tp://www.flickr.com/photos/gromgull/3608938172/ is well known is semweb land |
| 12:53:39 | <gromgull> | bblfish: ask the other people at the table? Tom or chris perhaps? |
| 12:55:46 | <bblfish> | gromgull, will do. He came with the guy to my right on the photo, and there is another person to his right he must know. If anyone knows anyone of them... |
| 12:56:33 | <gromgull> | where is the image recognition searchengine when you need it |
| 12:56:54 | <gromgull> | I have one more photo that is rubbish as far as photographic qualities go, but shows the missing guy on the right |
| 12:57:03 | <susscorf1> | Anchakor: that is pitty since i would like to indicate it is actually the same think were talking about |
| 12:57:04 | <bblfish> | ah cool, that could help |
| 12:57:54 | <gromgull> | w3c phil archer was next to him again |
| 13:00:42 | <bblfish> | yep, exactly, we had a long conversation |
| 13:02:16 | <Anchakor> | susscorf1: this is a reasonable use for owl:sameAs I think |
| 13:02:37 | <susscorf1> | ok |
| 13:07:46 | <bblfish> | first name may be "Dave" |
| 13:10:04 | <bblfish> | gromgull, found him http://www.semanticexchange.com/meta/node/85 It's Dave McComb |
| 13:10:43 | <bblfish> | Had a really great story about being locked up in a greek prison in his youth for juggling |
| 13:11:54 | <PhilA> | All being well he got home without being detained this time... |
| 13:13:02 | <shellac_> | bblfish: he's not australian, is he? |
| 13:13:49 | <shellac_> | scratch that: David McComb I'm thinking of is dead |
| 13:14:44 | <gromgull> | how did you find him? |
| 13:15:21 | <bblfish> | PhilA gave me his first name, then searching Google for "Dave and SemTech" got the result |
| 13:20:26 | <bblfish> | excellent team work :-) |
| 13:59:13 | <tobyink> | .whois kidehen |
| 13:59:14 | <mttlbot> | kidehen is Kingsley Idehen <http://kidehen.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this>. WWW: <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen>, <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/>. |
| 13:59:31 | <kidehen> | tobyink: ya beat me to it :-) |
| 13:59:45 | <kidehen> | tobyink: you're not tracking my keystrokes are you ? :-) |
| 14:00:09 | <kidehen> | tobyink: I guess you're realizing I am darn predictable :-) |
| 14:00:19 | <tobyink> | of course - i've installed keystroke loggers on half the people here. |
| 14:01:08 | <gromgull> | Hmm - dbpedia's turtle mixes in @prefix lines throughout the document - is this legal turtle(/n3) ? |
| 14:01:13 | <gromgull> | rdflib's parser doesn't like it |
| 14:01:58 | <KjetilK> | yeah, it is legal |
| 14:02:22 | <kidehen> | tobyink: .whois, .whereis, .whatis, etc.. would be nice additions |
| 14:02:22 | <gromgull> | dang :) |
| 14:02:25 | <tobyink> | http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/turtle/#sec-grammar-grammar |
| 14:02:26 | <csarven> | ACTION looks around for awesomeness |
| 14:02:30 | <KjetilK> | ACTION checked because Virtuoso does it too |
| 14:02:53 | <KjetilK> | ah, yeah, dbpedia is using Virtuoso, so... :-) |
| 14:02:56 | <kidehen> | KjetilK: predictable since Virtuoso is DBpedia host :-) |
| 14:02:59 | <KjetilK> | :-) |
| 14:03:19 | <KjetilK> | the Turtle serialisation could use some improvement, but this is acceptable |
| 14:03:23 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: csarven is <http://identi.ca/user/33> |
| 14:03:29 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://identi.ca/user/33> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/csarven,isnick> . |
| 14:03:29 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://identi.ca/user/33> with 599 triples. |
| 14:03:45 | <csarven> | Am I being hacked? What's going on? :) |
| 14:04:10 | <tobyink> | .sparql select ?name where { <http://identi.ca/user/33> foaf:knows ?person . ?person foaf:name ?name . } |
| 14:04:10 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: 0 results. |
| 14:04:44 | <tobyink> | .sparql select ?person where { <http://identi.ca/user/33> foaf:knows ?person . } |
| 14:04:44 | <mttlbot> | person=<http://identi.ca/user/18> |
| 14:04:44 | <mttlbot> | person=<http://identi.ca/user/11329> |
| 14:04:44 | <mttlbot> | person=<http://identi.ca/user/646> |
| 14:04:44 | <mttlbot> | person=<http://identi.ca/user/135> |
| 14:04:44 | <mttlbot> | person=<http://identi.ca/user/1951> |
| 14:04:47 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/7a49ecfe8ca67efd5dc94fb596c3ec165bb12fc8> (51 results total). |
| 14:05:12 | <tobyink> | .whois csarven |
| 14:05:12 | <mttlbot> | csarven is Sarven Capadisli <http://identi.ca/user/33>. WWW: <http://csarven.ca/>. |
| 14:05:15 | <csarven> | .whoami |
| 14:05:15 | <mttlbot> | csarven is Sarven Capadisli <http://identi.ca/user/33>. WWW: <http://csarven.ca/>. |
| 14:05:50 | <tobyink> | kidehen: .whereis and .whatis suggestions noted. |
| 14:06:48 | <kidehen> | .sparql select ?name where { <http://identi.ca/user/33> foaf:knows ?person . optional {?person foaf:name ?name} } |
| 14:06:49 | <mttlbot> | name |
| 14:06:49 | <mttlbot> | name |
| 14:06:49 | <mttlbot> | name |
| 14:06:49 | <mttlbot> | name |
| 14:06:49 | <mttlbot> | name |
| 14:06:49 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/83b5e9184ab072caadc22f8c05ad925e1fa0e17a> (51 results total). |
| 14:06:53 | <csarven> | Reading logs. This is pretty awesome tobyink |
| 14:07:46 | <kidehen> | tobyink: making this happen via identica and twitter is the next critical step :-) |
| 14:08:20 | <cerealtom> | .seen cygri |
| 14:08:20 | <phenny> | Sorry, I haven't seen cygri around. |
| 14:08:22 | <phenny> | cerealtom: 11:43Z <Zach_Beauvais> tell cerealtom "are you going to blog about ESWC and all the paper exploits?" |
| 14:09:05 | <tobyink> | kidehen: You can use ".sub" to subscribe to a feed. There is special handling for user feeds on identi.ca in that the notice bodies in the feed are parsed for microturtle. |
| 14:10:01 | <Anchakor> | PovAddict: you are interested in representing rdf as graphs? I might have something that might interest you |
| 14:10:21 | <tobyink> | .sparql construct { ?s ?p ?o . } where { graph <http://identi.ca/notice/4819437> { ?s ?p ?o } } |
| 14:10:27 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/0894b69d06a4a5a22d36a5538ea6102d71420514> |
| 14:12:07 | <csarven> | #mttl <#me> foaf:name "Sarven Capadisli" ; foaf:knows <@tobyink> |
| 14:12:08 | <mttlbot> | csarven: Graph saved as <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/csarven/1244556727.4770>. |
| 14:12:29 | <tobyink> | (The graph saved as links 404 right now.) |
| 14:12:40 | <csarven> | Noticed |
| 14:12:52 | <tobyink> | .sparql construct { ?s ?p ?o . } where { graph <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/csarven/1244556727.4770> { ?s ?p ?o } } |
| 14:12:53 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Internal Server Error [PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> |
| 14:13:42 | <tobyink> | .sparql construct { ?s ?p ?o . } where { graph <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/csarven/1244556727.4770> { ?s ?p ?o } } |
| 14:13:51 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Internal Server Error [PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> |
| 14:13:56 | <tobyink> | dammit |
| 14:14:14 | <tobyink> | That *should* show you the data that's meant to be in that graph. |
| 14:14:24 | <kidehen> | tobyink: have you looked at uriburner.com? You can use it to get a graph from pretty much all web resources (fidelity will vary, naturally) |
| 14:14:40 | <kidehen> | tobyink: then I can sparql against anything on the Web :-) |
| 14:16:41 | <kidehen> | .sparql select ?s ?p ?o where {graph <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> {?s ?p ?o} } |
| 14:16:41 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: 0 results. |
| 14:18:54 | <csarven> | mttlbot, I'm <http://csarven.ca/foaf#sarvencapadisli> |
| 14:18:57 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://csarven.ca/foaf#sarvencapadisli> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/csarven,isnick> . |
| 14:18:57 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://csarven.ca/foaf> with 49 triples. |
| 14:19:04 | <csarven> | Too sweet |
| 14:19:42 | <kidehen> | .sparql select ?s ?p ?o from <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> where {?s ?p ?o} |
| 14:20:00 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The reference to entity "siteid" must end with the ';' delimiter. [PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> |
| 14:21:34 | <tobyink> | hmmm... i didn't even think I'd enabled web loading (i.e. jena fetching graphs off the web to query) |
| 14:21:47 | <tobyink> | My recommended method would be... |
| 14:22:01 | <tobyink> | .load <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> |
| 14:22:04 | <tobyink> | Though I doubt that will work. |
| 14:22:09 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> with 4 triples. |
| 14:22:11 | <lbjay> | ooh, neat. they've got a bot over in #swig that has a @sparql command |
| 14:22:13 | <kidehen> | tobyink: if you to: http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/sparql and paste in: select distinct * from <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> where {?s a ?o} -- with the option to retrieve ext. graphs. |
| 14:22:15 | <lbjay> | hah! |
| 14:22:45 | <tobyink> | .sparql select ?s ?p ?o where {graph <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> {?s ?p ?o} } |
| 14:22:45 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/css/rb/tron/matrix.css>; p=[xhv:stylesheet]; o=<http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> |
| 14:22:45 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1>; p=[xhv:stylesheet]; o=<http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/css/rb/tron/matrix.css> |
| 14:22:45 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1>; p=[xhv:stylesheet]; o=<http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/css/rb/tron/print.css> |
| 14:22:46 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/css/rb/tron/print.css>; p=[xhv:stylesheet]; o=<http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10260125-37.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1> |
| 14:23:18 | <lbjay> | ACTION cannot get used to the irssi split window thing |
| 14:24:03 | <kidehen> | tobyink: so the result is at: http://tr.im/nUd6 . btw- if you use /isparql (uid/pwd is demo) instead of sparql, the results page lets you explore the URIs. These are little things you can add to this bot etc.. |
| 14:24:52 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: lbjay would be <http://blog.reallywow.com/foaf#me> |
| 14:24:54 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://blog.reallywow.com/foaf#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/lbjay,isnick> . |
| 14:24:54 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://blog.reallywow.com/foaf> with 88 triples. |
| 14:25:13 | <lbjay> | tobyink: gracias |
| 14:30:03 | <Zach_Beauvais> | ACTION waves |
| 14:31:54 | <lbjay> | @ana bingapalooza |
| 14:31:59 | <lbjay> | oh good lord |
| 14:48:51 | <PovAddict> | Anchakor: ? |
| 14:55:52 | <PovAddict> | why is the bot using irc://192.168.100.27 for freenode? |
| 14:58:07 | <tobyink> | PovAddict: That's my local proxy. Essentially it should just be thought of as an opaque identifier. |
| 14:58:41 | <PovAddict> | what if an existing foaf already links a person to his freenode nickname? |
| 14:59:29 | <Anchakor> | PovAddict: I made a converting script between yEd's graphml and n3 (turtle), so you can get stuff like this http://fotopaste.cz/full/id=742 http://fotopaste.cz/full/id=742 |
| 14:59:49 | <tobyink> | It will be ignored IIRC. |
| 15:00:19 | <PovAddict> | Anchakor: looks clearer than graphviz |
| 15:00:21 | <Anchakor> | PovAddict: though I made it so I can develop ontologies in a graphical way |
| 15:00:58 | <Anchakor> | PovAddict: the legend http://fotopaste.cz/full/id=744 |
| 15:04:42 | <KjetilK> | mttlbot, <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me> is me |
| 15:04:43 | <mttlbot> | Huh? |
| 15:04:56 | <KjetilK> | mttlbot, help |
| 15:04:57 | <mttlbot> | I am a bot. My owner is tobyink. |
| 15:04:57 | <mttlbot> | I read MicroTurtle <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec> in this channel and store them for later queries. |
| 15:04:57 | <mttlbot> | Commands: |
| 15:04:57 | <mttlbot> | .drop <graph> = Drop graph from storage. |
| 15:04:57 | <mttlbot> | .graphs = List of graphs. |
| 15:04:59 | <mttlbot> | .load <uri> = Read RDF and store as a graph. |
| 15:05:02 | <mttlbot> | .sparql <query> = Run SPARQL Query on my quad store. |
| 15:05:05 | <mttlbot> | .sparul <script> = Run SPARQL Update on my quad store. |
| 15:05:07 | <mttlbot> | .sub <feed> = Subscribe to an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 15:05:08 | <PovAddict> | KjetilK: say "I am <url>" |
| 15:05:09 | <mttlbot> | .unsub <feed> = Unsubscribe from an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 15:05:12 | <mttlbot> | .whoami = One of life's big questions. |
| 15:05:15 | <mttlbot> | .whois <nick> = Who is this person? |
| 15:05:17 | <mttlbot> | Introduce yourself like this: 'mttlbot, I am <someWebID>'. |
| 15:05:21 | <KjetilK> | mttlbot, I am <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me> |
| 15:05:25 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/KjetilK,isnick> . |
| 15:05:25 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/foaf> with 357 triples. |
| 15:05:40 | <KjetilK> | mttlbot, you could learn from Zakim, you know :-) |
| 15:05:41 | <mttlbot> | Huh? |
| 15:08:53 | <swh> | mttlbot, I am <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf> |
| 15:08:55 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/swh,isnick> . |
| 15:08:55 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf> with 171 triples. |
| 15:09:36 | <PovAddict> | ACTION should get himself an uri |
| 15:09:44 | <swh> | oops |
| 15:09:49 | <swh> | mttlbot, I am <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf#me> |
| 15:09:52 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/swh,isnick> . |
| 15:09:52 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf> with 171 triples. |
| 15:09:53 | <swh> | ACTION is not a document :) |
| 15:10:07 | <tobyink> | PovAddict: foaf.me is an easy way to set one up. |
| 15:10:11 | <PovAddict> | .whois swh |
| 15:10:13 | <mttlbot> | swh is Steve Harris <http://plugin.org.uk/swh.xrdf#me>. WWW: <http://plugin.org.uk/>. |
| 15:10:13 | <mttlbot> | PS: I don't know who you are PovAddict. |
| 15:10:26 | <PovAddict> | lol @ dc_swig |
| 15:10:40 | <tobyink> | I should try to avoid mttlbot talking to dc_swig... |
| 15:10:48 | <swh> | It's OK til the bots start telling each other things :) |
| 15:10:58 | <tobyink> | (unless they do it in productive ways). |
| 15:11:16 | <tobyink> | For a while I was running a SIOC logger here which was able to talk to phenny usefully. |
| 15:11:28 | <PovAddict> | dc_swig should *ignore* two-letter labels until there are more than 26 items :) |
| 15:11:32 | <PovAddict> | HELLOWORLD: |
| 15:12:00 | <tobyink> | The other annoying thing that can trigger dc_swig is Perl modules. e.g. |
| 15:12:06 | <tobyink> | RDF::Redland::Parser |
| 15:13:33 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, go away |
| 15:13:43 | <mattl> | i have a bot now? |
| 15:13:50 | <PovAddict> | lol |
| 15:13:54 | <PovAddict> | not quite |
| 15:14:06 | <tobyink> | mattl: Yes, you were asleep so I wrote a replacement for you. |
| 15:14:28 | <MacTed> | mttlbot, I am <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/person/tthibodeau#this> |
| 15:14:33 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/person/tthibodeau#this> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/MacTed,isnick> . |
| 15:14:33 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/person/tthibodeau> with 53 triples. |
| 15:15:19 | <mattl> | tobyink: its probably more responsive |
| 15:15:58 | <swh> | whoever write mttlbot, it would be nice if it responded to PMs asking for usage/help |
| 15:16:29 | <mattl> | whoever wrote it, you're infringing on my name too ;) |
| 15:16:32 | <MacTed> | .whois MacTed |
| 15:16:33 | <mttlbot> | MacTed is Ted Thibodeau Jr <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/person/tthibodeau#this>. |
| 15:16:47 | <tobyink> | I still need to figure out how to deal with private messages. |
| 15:16:58 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: mattl is <http://identi.ca/user/9577> |
| 15:17:06 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://identi.ca/user/9577> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/mattl,isnick> . |
| 15:17:06 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://identi.ca/user/9577> with 902 triples. |
| 15:17:13 | <tobyink> | .whois mattl |
| 15:17:13 | <mttlbot> | mattl is Matt Lee <http://identi.ca/user/9577>. WWW: <http://matt.lee.name>. |
| 15:17:55 | <tobyink> | .load <http://alpha.libre.fm/user/tobyink> |
| 15:18:02 | <mattl> | .whyis tobyink doing.this |
| 15:18:38 | <mattl> | tobyink: your bot doesn't work very well ;) |
| 15:18:47 | <tobyink> | It's thinking. |
| 15:18:57 | <tobyink> | Partly to experiment implementing MicroTurtle, partly to learn about Jena, but mostly for fun. |
| 15:19:08 | <PovAddict> | .help .sparql |
| 15:19:16 | <PovAddict> | mttlbot: help sparql |
| 15:19:22 | <PovAddict> | I don't want to make it print the whole help |
| 15:19:24 | <tobyink> | it's still thinking. |
| 15:19:32 | <PovAddict> | heh |
| 15:20:01 | <tobyink> | while one command is processing, the rest just queue up. there's a timeout eventually though. |
| 15:20:18 | <PovAddict> | what command is locking it now? |
| 15:20:23 | <PovAddict> | "why is tobyink doing this"? |
| 15:20:32 | <tobyink> | My ".load" command. |
| 15:20:33 | <PovAddict> | oh, the .load |
| 15:20:39 | <mattl> | tobyink: can you make it change its nick from mttlbot to mttlbot | then \ then - then / then - and then back to |? then we can see the thinking. |
| 15:20:51 | <PovAddict> | no >.< |
| 15:21:02 | <PovAddict> | flood of nick changes |
| 15:21:20 | <mattl> | you see them? |
| 15:21:26 | <mattl> | wow. irc must be annoying. |
| 15:21:43 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://alpha.libre.fm/user/tobyink> with 240 triples. |
| 15:21:43 | <mttlbot> | I am a bot. My owner is tobyink. |
| 15:21:43 | <mttlbot> | I read MicroTurtle <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec> in this channel and store them for later queries. |
| 15:21:44 | <mttlbot> | Commands: |
| 15:21:46 | <mttlbot> | .drop <graph> = Drop graph from storage. |
| 15:21:49 | <mttlbot> | .graphs = List of graphs. |
| 15:21:51 | <mttlbot> | .load <uri> = Read RDF and store as a graph. |
| 15:21:54 | <mttlbot> | .sparql <query> = Run SPARQL Query on my quad store. |
| 15:21:56 | <mttlbot> | .sparul <script> = Run SPARQL Update on my quad store. |
| 15:21:59 | <mttlbot> | .sub <feed> = Subscribe to an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 15:22:02 | <mttlbot> | .unsub <feed> = Unsubscribe from an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 15:22:04 | <mttlbot> | .whoami = One of life's big questions. |
| 15:22:06 | <mttlbot> | .whois <nick> = Who is this person? |
| 15:22:09 | <mttlbot> | Introduce yourself like this: 'mttlbot, I am <someWebID>'. |
| 15:22:11 | <PovAddict> | argh now it will print whole help twice? |
| 15:22:20 | <mattl> | tobyink: stop flooding. |
| 15:22:25 | <PovAddict> | phew |
| 15:22:33 | <PovAddict> | yeah make .help print an URL |
| 15:22:36 | <tobyink> | .help doesn't do anything. |
| 15:22:39 | <kidehen> | .whoami |
| 15:22:39 | <lbjay> | tobyink: mttlbot is based on phenny? |
| 15:22:39 | <mttlbot> | kidehen is Kingsley Idehen <http://kidehen.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this>. WWW: <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen>, <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/>. |
| 15:22:55 | <kidehen> | .whois <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/perosn/kidehen#this> |
| 15:22:56 | <mttlbot> | Ask me about <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/perosn/kidehen#this> later perhaps? |
| 15:22:56 | <tobyink> | lbjay: no, just borrows the "." syntax. |
| 15:23:32 | <tobyink> | kidehen: .whois always expects a nick. |
| 15:23:32 | <kidehen> | tobyink: note strange sequence above |
| 15:23:43 | <kidehen> | tobyink: .whois kidehen |
| 15:24:10 | <tobyink> | kidehen: why you asking me? |
| 15:24:15 | <tobyink> | .whois kidehen |
| 15:24:15 | <mttlbot> | kidehen is Kingsley Idehen <http://kidehen.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this>. WWW: <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen>, <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/>. |
| 15:24:24 | <kidehen> | tobyink: no, the bot :-) |
| 15:24:49 | <kidehen> | tobyink: .whatis would be nice |
| 15:25:15 | <tobyink> | kidehen: yes, you said earlier - and .whereis. Requests noted. |
| 15:25:20 | <kidehen> | tobyink: k |
| 15:25:25 | <tobyink> | There's always ".sparql describe" |
| 15:25:42 | <kidehen> | tobyink: sure, but I am thinking higher level stuff :-) |
| 15:25:59 | <kidehen> | .sparql describe kidehen |
| 15:26:00 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: Parse error: PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> PREFIX cc: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#> PREFIX ccold: <http://web.resource.org/cc/> PREFIX ccrel: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#> PREFIX dc: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> PREFIX dc11: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> PREFIX dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> PREFIX doac: <http://ramonantonio.net/doac/0.1/#> PREFIX doap: <http://usefulinc.com/ns/doap#> |
| 15:26:13 | <mattl> | tobyink: the bot needs a .request and a .bug feature. |
| 15:26:32 | <tobyink> | .sparql describe <http://kidehen.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> |
| 15:26:33 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/dd7ec2de3670726242005c41b306bbe306b2c0a0> |
| 15:26:42 | <kidehen> | mattl: you going to be a MIT gathering today? |
| 15:26:50 | <tobyink> | ".bug" would bug people? |
| 15:27:01 | <mattl> | kidehen: certainly am. |
| 15:27:08 | <kidehen> | mattl: k |
| 15:27:12 | <mattl> | tobyink: .bug xyz doesn't work properly. |
| 15:27:26 | <mattl> | .feature bot should greet people with 'hola!' when they enter the channel. |
| 15:27:30 | <mattl> | etc |
| 15:27:31 | <kidehen> | .sparql help |
| 15:27:32 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: Parse error: PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> PREFIX cc: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#> PREFIX ccold: <http://web.resource.org/cc/> PREFIX ccrel: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#> PREFIX dc: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> PREFIX dc11: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> PREFIX dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> PREFIX doac: <http://ramonantonio.net/doac/0.1/#> PREFIX doap: <http://usefulinc.com/ns/doap#> |
| 15:28:17 | <kidehen> | .sparql describe <http://myopenlink.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> |
| 15:28:24 | <swh> | .sparql SELECT * WHERE { ?x foaf:name ?y } |
| 15:28:28 | <mattl> | kidehen: though in the last month i've done nothing much for the web of data, just a lot of FSF, FooCorp and librefm stuff. |
| 15:28:33 | <swh> | ACTION guesses... |
| 15:28:54 | <lbjay> | tobyink: we have a bot in #code4lib that has a @whatis command. uses the lookup.dbpedia.org service |
| 15:29:38 | <tobyink> | pretty cool. |
| 15:29:58 | <kidehen> | lbjay: let's try to have a place on ESW Wiki that describes these sparql and linked data aware bots |
| 15:30:06 | <lbjay> | tobyink: code is here if you want ideas http://svn.breaksalot.org/supybot-plugins/plugins/DBpedia/plugin.py |
| 15:30:30 | <lbjay> | kidehen: that's a nice idea |
| 15:30:31 | <kidehen> | tobyink: .whenis for todo also :-) |
| 15:31:17 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: read timeout [PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> |
| 15:31:17 | <mttlbot> | swh: read timeout [PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> |
| 15:31:40 | <kidehen> | tobyink: so who, what, where, and when should be covered. As for "why" that's a little more challenging as this require context and some inference spicing |
| 15:32:18 | <tobyink> | Looks like zoia essentially does a dbpedia describe on the thing and returns the result in a concise format. |
| 15:32:19 | <kidehen> | tobyink: so distant future we should be able to do: .whyis :-) |
| 15:32:41 | <lbjay> | .whois tobyink |
| 15:32:59 | <tobyink> | I think it's got upset. |
| 15:33:02 | <mttlbot> | Ask me about tobyink later perhaps? |
| 15:33:40 | <lbjay> | @know kidehen http://kidehen.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this |
| 15:33:40 | <zoia> | lbjay: kidehen's URI is now <http://kidehen.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> |
| 15:33:52 | <tobyink> | kidehen: mttlbot already capable of some fairly complicated philosophical questions. |
| 15:34:14 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: if a tree falls in the woods and there's noone there to hear it, does it really make a sound? |
| 15:34:14 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Yes. CRASH!! |
| 15:34:45 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: to be or not to be? |
| 15:34:45 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Is that supposed to be a question? |
| 15:42:05 | <PovAddict> | mttlbot: what is the answer to life, the universe, and everyhing? |
| 15:42:05 | <mttlbot> | Huh? |
| 15:42:09 | <PovAddict> | mttlbot: what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything? |
| 15:42:09 | <mttlbot> | PovAddict: 42. |
| 15:42:13 | <PovAddict> | :) |
| 15:43:07 | <tobyink> | those are the three main easter eggs. |
| 15:43:13 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: gutentag |
| 15:43:13 | <mttlbot> | Hello, old friend. |
| 15:43:22 | <tobyink> | mttlbot: gutentag |
| 15:43:22 | <mttlbot> | Gutentag to you too tobyink. |
| 16:02:54 | <tobyink> | kwijibo: Here's how it can be done in MicroTurtle #mttl http://torrentfreak.com/how-pirates-shook-european-politics-090608/ says "We'll share files in Brussels!" |
| 16:02:55 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Graph saved as <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122>. |
| 16:03:28 | <tobyink> | .sparql select ?p ?o where {<http://torrentfreak.com/how-pirates-shook-european-politics-090608/> ?p ?o } |
| 16:03:28 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: 0 results. |
| 16:03:38 | <tobyink> | dammit |
| 16:04:07 | <keithA> | tobyink: what went wrong there ? |
| 16:04:15 | <keithA> | can i use that syntax? |
| 16:04:20 | <tobyink> | .sparql select * where { graph <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122> {?s ?p ?o }} |
| 16:04:21 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/messages/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122>; p=[sioc:has_creator]; o=<irc://192.168.100.27/tobyink,isnick> |
| 16:04:22 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/messages/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122>; p=[rss:modules/content/encoded]; o="kwijibo: Here's how it can be done in MicroTurtle #mttl http://torrentfreak.com/how-pirates-shook-european-politics-090608/ says "We'll share files in Brussels!"" |
| 16:04:22 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/messages/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122>; p=[rdf:]; o=<http://rdfs.org/sioc/types#InstantMessage> |
| 16:04:23 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/messages/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122>; p=[dcterms:creator]; o=<http://tobyinkster.co.uk/#i> |
| 16:04:26 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/messages/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122>; p=[log:semantics]; o=<http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244563373.6122> |
| 16:04:30 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/5b057b77b016b30631053139fd4595760b912861> (7 results total). |
| 16:05:38 | <tobyink> | keithA: MicroTurtle syntax is at http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec |
| 16:06:07 | <tobyink> | though I don't know why it didn't work :-( |
| 16:09:27 | <tobyink> | mttlbot, bye |
| 16:15:36 | <tobyink> | OK, a bug in my MicroTurtle parsing library, not in mttlbot. #mttl http://torrentfreak.com/how-pirates-shook-european-politics-090608/ says "We'll share files in Brussels!" |
| 16:15:37 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Graph saved as <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/graphs/irc/swig/tobyink/1244564136.9009>. |
| 16:16:07 | <tobyink> | .sparql select * where { <http://torrentfreak.com/how-pirates-shook-european-politics-090608/> ?p ?o } |
| 16:16:08 | <mttlbot> | p=[ov:quote]; o="We'll share files in Brussels!" |
| 16:17:54 | <keithA> | tobyink: are the triples aggregated somewhere so I can see if my statements were syntactically correct? |
| 16:18:10 | <tobyink> | Expanding tinyurl would be cool, but not currently supported. |
| 16:18:24 | <tobyink> | .sub <http://identi.ca/kwijibo/rss> |
| 16:18:38 | <mttlbot> | tobyink: Subscribed to <http://identi.ca/kwijibo/rss>. |
| 16:18:42 | <tobyink> | keithA: your triples are now here. |
| 16:19:45 | <tobyink> | .sparql select * where { graph <http://identi.ca/notice/5110652> {?s ?p ?o}} |
| 16:19:46 | <mttlbot> | s=[_:b0]; p=[rdfs:label]; o="MicroTurtle" |
| 16:19:46 | <mttlbot> | s=[_:b0]; p=[foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf]; o=<http://ur1.ca/5es5> |
| 16:19:46 | <mttlbot> | s=[_:b1]; p=[rdf:type]; o=[rdfg:Graph] |
| 16:19:46 | <mttlbot> | s=[_:b1]; p=[rdfs:comment]; o="kwijibo:" |
| 16:19:46 | <mttlbot> | s=<http://identi.ca/kwijibo#me>; p=<http://ur1.ca/5es4>; o=[_:b0] |
| 16:19:49 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/a3bd42e3b330f8361df856b69c5af34498b600f7> (12 results total). |
| 16:22:02 | <dajobe> | mattl:"feature bot should greet people with 'hola!' when they enter the channel." |
| 16:22:10 | <dajobe> | No, don't do that |
| 16:22:21 | <dajobe> | 100 people x many bots x greetings = annoyed |
| 16:33:12 | <mattl> | dajobe: it was an example of a feature vs bug |
| 16:33:24 | <sjgibbs> | Hello all |
| 16:33:28 | <mattl> | dajobe: if tobyink makes it do that, i'll be forced to cry. |
| 16:34:46 | <kidehen> | .sparql describe <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720%23this> |
| 16:34:48 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/ac6671b721b8abfbf61d157bc25e29a0c3a84848> |
| 16:35:30 | <sjgibbs> | I'm looking for a working/valid WSDL for the SPARQL protocol and have become confused by the specifications wrt namesapces. The SPARQL protocol contains normative XSDs using http://www.w3.org/2007/SPARQL/results# but the results format spec mentions http://www.w3.org/2005/sparql-results# . |
| 16:35:31 | <kidehen> | .sparql load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720%23this> |
| 16:35:32 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: Parse error: PREFIX bio: <http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1/> PREFIX cc: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#> PREFIX ccold: <http://web.resource.org/cc/> PREFIX ccrel: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#> PREFIX dc: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> PREFIX dc11: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> PREFIX dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> PREFIX doac: <http://ramonantonio.net/doac/0.1/#> PREFIX doap: <http://usefulinc.com/ns/doap#> |
| 16:35:39 | <tobyink> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720%23this> |
| 16:35:50 | <sjgibbs> | Both have recommendation status |
| 16:35:51 | <kidehen> | tobyink: ah! |
| 16:35:56 | <kidehen> | . load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720%23this> |
| 16:36:20 | <tobyink> | It tends to be a bit slow at loading. |
| 16:36:41 | <sjgibbs> | Can anyone offer clarity, with regards the namespace and XSD files to implement? |
| 16:37:10 | <kidehen> | .load >http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720#this> |
| 16:37:28 | <kidehen> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720#this> |
| 16:37:31 | <mattl> | kidehen: is tonight gonna be good? i see we have 3 talks. |
| 16:37:43 | <kidehen> | mattl: yes |
| 16:37:44 | <tobyink> | kidehen: it is loading. you just need to be patient. |
| 16:38:00 | <kidehen> | tobyink: k |
| 16:38:25 | <tobyink> | or it claims it is anyway. |
| 16:39:12 | <kidehen> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a00a8c69-bba0-3281-9d52-37af738c5c14#this> |
| 16:39:58 | <tobyink> | hmmm... |
| 16:40:42 | <tobyink> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720#this> |
| 16:40:57 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group/calendar/10397720#this> with 82 triples. |
| 16:41:04 | <tobyink> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a00a8c69-bba0-3281-9d52-37af738c5c14#this> |
| 16:41:05 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http/d.opencalais.com/er/company/ralg-tr1r/a00a8c69-bba0-3281-9d52-37af738c5c14#this> with 17 triples. |
| 16:41:46 | <mattl> | tobyink: so what does 'mttl' stand for? |
| 16:42:04 | <tobyink> | MicroTurtle |
| 16:42:47 | <mattl> | ACTION develops tbyinkbot |
| 16:42:48 | <tobyink> | The initial feature was to parse incoming MicroTurtle messages and allow them to be queried. Other features (e.g. .whois, .load, .sub) evolved from that. |
| 16:42:59 | <PovAddict> | lol |
| 16:43:07 | <tobyink> | I'm happy to rename it if anyone can think of a better name. |
| 16:43:07 | <PovAddict> | mattl: unless you registered the trademark you can't complain :) |
| 16:43:18 | <PovAddict> | legally, at least |
| 16:43:30 | <tobyink> | I don't think complaining is illegal. |
| 16:43:44 | <tobyink> | Anyway, must dash. Bye. |
| 16:45:34 | <kidehen> | .load http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http://www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group |
| 16:45:37 | <kidehen> | ah! |
| 16:45:41 | <kidehen> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http://www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group> |
| 16:47:19 | <mttlbot> | Could not load data into graph <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http://www.meetup.com/The-Cambridge-Semantic-Web-Meetup-Group>. |
| 16:48:50 | <sjgibbs> | kidehen: do Virtuoso offer a SOAP implementation of the SPARQL protocol? |
| 16:49:33 | <PovAddict> | ew soap |
| 16:51:09 | <sjgibbs> | PovAddict: it suits my use case. At least, in the past I've been advised to avoid very long URLs and I want to query a long list of graphs, so was thinking I should should use something bound to POST. |
| 16:51:50 | <b0r3d> | hi. are there some interesting problem to do with semantic web related to graph theory / computer science? |
| 16:52:50 | <SifuMoraga> | b0r0d: short answer is yes. |
| 16:53:38 | <b0r3d> | SifuMoraga, where can i look for those? |
| 16:54:25 | <SifuMoraga> | Just keep in mind that RDF data is a graph structure, and then consider the graph matching problems on a really really big graph |
| 16:54:34 | <SifuMoraga> | billions of nodes |
| 16:55:26 | <SifuMoraga> | Aaron Kershenbaum and Achille Fokoue at IBM wrote some papers on the subject and created SHER as an example of a scalable solution |
| 16:57:35 | <PovAddict> | ACTION is in the annoying phase of picking a license before releasing his tiny lib |
| 16:57:58 | <PovAddict> | I hate getting stuck in details :) it's like... 300 lines |
| 16:59:31 | <sjgibbs> | PovAddict: if its very trivial, why not just a Public Domain dedication? |
| 17:01:39 | <b0r3d> | SifuMoraga, where can I look for these problems.. specially related to SW |
| 17:02:03 | <sjgibbs> | all: does *anybody* have a real working SPARQL endpoint using WSDL 1.x? I just want to crib the XSDs / namespaces. |
| 17:03:48 | <PovAddict> | not that trivial :) |
| 17:07:21 | <b0r3d> | SifuMoraga, did you answer by any chance? |
| 17:07:40 | <SifuMoraga> | brb |
| 17:07:49 | <b0r3d> | (got d/c) |
| 17:08:06 | <PovAddict> | no |
| 17:14:38 | <SifuMoraga> | Oops, it looks like my answer was swallowed by the internet |
| 17:15:30 | <PovAddict> | the intertubes are clogged |
| 17:16:46 | <SifuMoraga> | So, there is some information about SHER at: http://domino.research.ibm.com/comm/research_projects.nsf/pages/iaa.index.html |
| 17:17:04 | <SifuMoraga> | Look for papers co-written with Aaron Kershenbaum |
| 17:23:21 | <kidehen> | phenny, tell sjgibbs to see: http://dbpedia.org/sparql/services11.wsdl |
| 17:23:22 | <phenny> | kidehen: I'll pass that on when sjgibbs is around. |
| 17:24:31 | <kidehen> | phenny, tell sjgibbs to see: http://dbpedia.org/sparql/services.wsdl for WSDL 2.0 |
| 17:24:31 | <phenny> | kidehen: I'll pass that on when sjgibbs is around. |
| 17:24:47 | <sjgibbs> | ACTION is seeing double |
| 17:24:48 | <phenny> | sjgibbs: 17:23Z <kidehen> tell sjgibbs to see: http://dbpedia.org/sparql/services11.wsdl |
| 17:24:49 | <phenny> | sjgibbs: 17:24Z <kidehen> tell sjgibbs to see: http://dbpedia.org/sparql/services.wsdl for WSDL 2.0 |
| 17:31:09 | <sjgibbs> | kidehen: thanks, though actually you've linked to the same broken WSDL I was already struggling with. Since you're a major site (and vendor) I'm going to use the XSDs attached to the normative spec to generate code and then manually ensure I follow your XML rather than the recommendation. |
| 17:31:48 | <kidehen> | sjgibbs: k |
| 17:41:15 | <mhausenblas> | good nite Web of Data (and a big hurray to tobyink who did a great job ;) |
| 17:45:18 | <sjgibbs> | kidehen: to clarify, the broken WSDL was not yours :-) |
| 18:21:43 | <DanC> | ACTION wanders by, wondering how to kill just a few minutes before next telcon... |
| 18:24:24 | <DanC> | mttlbot, I'm <http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/#me>. |
| 18:24:26 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/DanC,isnick> . |
| 18:24:27 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/> with 2 triples. |
| 18:24:42 | <DanC> | mttlbot, help |
| 18:24:42 | <mttlbot> | I am a bot. My owner is tobyink. |
| 18:24:42 | <mttlbot> | I read MicroTurtle <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec> in this channel and store them for later queries. |
| 18:24:42 | <mttlbot> | Commands: |
| 18:24:42 | <mttlbot> | .drop <graph> = Drop graph from storage. |
| 18:24:43 | <mttlbot> | .graphs = List of graphs. |
| 18:24:45 | <mttlbot> | .load <uri> = Read RDF and store as a graph. |
| 18:24:48 | <mttlbot> | .sparql <query> = Run SPARQL Query on my quad store. |
| 18:24:50 | <mttlbot> | .sparul <script> = Run SPARQL Update on my quad store. |
| 18:24:53 | <mttlbot> | .sub <feed> = Subscribe to an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 18:24:55 | <mttlbot> | .unsub <feed> = Unsubscribe from an RSS 1.0 feed. |
| 18:24:58 | <mttlbot> | .whoami = One of life's big questions. |
| 18:25:01 | <mttlbot> | .whois <nick> = Who is this person? |
| 18:25:03 | <mttlbot> | Introduce yourself like this: 'mttlbot, I am <someWebID>'. |
| 18:25:39 | <kidehen> | .graphs |
| 18:25:41 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: see <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/a64fb50f3eb91d789b979b650d900b4218eb820a>. |
| 18:27:08 | <mischat> | mttlbot, I'm <http://mmt.me.uk/foaf.rdf#mischa> |
| 18:27:18 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://mmt.me.uk/foaf.rdf#mischa> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/mischat,isnick> . |
| 18:27:18 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://mmt.me.uk/foaf.rdf> with 294 triples. |
| 18:28:47 | <DanC> | doesn't seem to load GRDDL. I wonder about RDFa |
| 18:29:17 | <DanC> | .sparql select ?p where { [] ?p [] } |
| 18:29:31 | <DanC> | mttlbot, .sparql select ?p where { [] ?p [] } |
| 18:29:59 | <mttlbot> | p=[foaf:homepage] |
| 18:29:59 | <mttlbot> | p=[ical:location] |
| 18:29:59 | <mttlbot> | p=[foaf:name] |
| 18:29:59 | <mttlbot> | p=[foaf:blog] |
| 18:29:59 | <mttlbot> | p=[foaf:mbox_sha1sum] |
| 18:30:01 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/3e9985f4e7c6d1e7e00e12876cdf6229b55ddcc3> (7413 results total). |
| 18:30:04 | <mttlbot> | Does not compute! |
| 18:30:09 | <LeeF> | mttlbot, I'm <http://thefigtrees.net/id#lee> |
| 18:30:11 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://thefigtrees.net/id#lee> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/LeeF,isnick> . |
| 18:30:12 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://thefigtrees.net/id> with 75 triples. |
| 18:30:45 | <besbes> | mttlbot, I'm <http://www.cs.univie.ac.at/foaf.php?eid=223#me> |
| 18:30:46 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://www.cs.univie.ac.at/foaf.php?eid=223#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/besbes,isnick> . |
| 18:30:46 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://www.cs.univie.ac.at/foaf.php?eid=223> with 0 triples. |
| 18:31:03 | <mischat> | mttlbot: .sparql select * where {<http://mmt.me.uk/foaf.rdf#mischa> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/interest> ?a}; |
| 18:31:04 | <mttlbot> | Huh? |
| 18:31:40 | <mischat> | mttlbot: .sparql select ?a where {<http://mmt.me.uk/foaf.rdf#mischa> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/interest> ?a} |
| 18:31:40 | <mttlbot> | Does not compute! |
| 18:32:00 | <DanC> | ACTION wanders off... |
| 18:38:57 | <kidehen> | .load <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http://delicious.com/kidehen/semanticweb_meetup> |
| 18:39:09 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/rdf/http://delicious.com/kidehen/semanticweb_meetup> with 574 triples. |
| 18:39:20 | <kidehen> | .graph |
| 18:48:37 | <b0r3d> | .graphs |
| 18:48:39 | <mttlbot> | b0r3d: see <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/38cf0cde5836eac6b8acd9055efc112d3f3ba10c>. |
| 18:48:39 | <mttlbot> | By the way, I don't know who you are b0r3d. |
| 18:50:16 | <MacTed> | .sparql select ?a where {<http://mmt.me.uk/foaf.rdf#mischa> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/interest> ?a} |
| 18:50:17 | <mttlbot> | a=<http://dbpedia.org/page/Linux_(operating%20system)> |
| 18:50:17 | <mttlbot> | a=<http://dbpedia.org/page/Perl_(programming%20language)> |
| 18:50:17 | <mttlbot> | a=<http://dbpedia.org/page/Grindcore> |
| 18:50:17 | <mttlbot> | a=<http://dbpedia.org/page/Drums_(musical%20instrument)> |
| 18:50:17 | <mttlbot> | a=<http://dbpedia.org/page/Technical_Death%20Metal> |
| 18:50:20 | <mttlbot> | ... more at <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/5659d684095cdf64481e87d71392ee2682faa39d> (16 results total). |
| 19:21:29 | <MacTed> | .whois LeeF |
| 19:21:29 | <mttlbot> | LeeF is Lee Feigenbaum <http://thefigtrees.net/id#lee>. WWW: <http://thefigtrees.net/lee/>. |
| 19:25:37 | <LeeF> | it's a lie! |
| 19:26:08 | <PovAddict> | is there a reified statement saying it's a lie? |
| 19:26:08 | <PovAddict> | :) |
| 19:26:31 | <LeeF> | :-) |
| 19:28:18 | <mischat> | hehe |
| 19:30:08 | <PovAddict> | is there any predicate to say how true something is? |
| 19:30:16 | <PovAddict> | ACTION shows a URI representing 'the cake' |
| 19:32:48 | <mischat> | dc:source |
| 19:33:31 | <PovAddict> | I mean, how do I say "the cake is a lie" in a triple? |
| 19:34:05 | <KjetilK> | <cake> a Lie |
| 19:34:07 | <KjetilK> | ;-) |
| 19:34:28 | <KjetilK> | I guess "says who" is the interesting thing.... |
| 19:42:03 | <melvster> | mttlbot, I am <http://foaf.me/melvincarvalho#me> |
| 19:42:06 | <mttlbot> | I understand: <http://foaf.me/melvincarvalho#me> foaf:holdsAccount <irc://192.168.100.27/melvster,isnick> . |
| 19:42:06 | <mttlbot> | Loaded <http://foaf.me/melvincarvalho> with 39 triples. |
| 19:42:10 | <tobyink> | KjetilK, everything's stored in named graphs, so you can say that particular graphs are incorrect. (But then again, someone else can claim that *that* is incorrect too.) |
| 19:42:24 | <melvster> | nice :) |
| 19:43:54 | <tobyink> | DanC: .load parses RDF using a fairly recent version of librdf (though possibly not the latest), so supports whatever formats librdf supports. |
| 19:44:24 | <DanC> | i see |
| 19:44:34 | <tobyink> | Though it handles RDFa internally without calling librdf. |
| 19:46:50 | <KjetilK> | tobyink, yeah, it was more a funny remark on handling that in RDF :-) |
| 19:48:23 | <melvster> | .whois DanC |
| 19:48:24 | <mttlbot> | DanC is Dan Connolly <http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/#me>. WWW: <http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/>. |
| 19:52:52 | <Pipian_> | Are there any SPARQL Update implementations aside from Jena? |
| 19:53:59 | <Pipian_> | (i.e. ARQ) |
| 19:55:47 | <melvster> | arc2 datawiki sparql+ ? |
| 19:55:59 | <Pipian_> | Hmm |
| 19:56:16 | <Pipian_> | ARC2 may do the job for what I want then. |
| 19:56:26 | <melvster> | i use it |
| 19:56:36 | <melvster> | works with a POST |
| 19:57:47 | <melvster> | tobyink: i think i broke it .. (9:55:16 PM) mttlbot left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). |
| 19:57:50 | <Pipian_> | Planning on doing some playing around with a distributed access-control system with mod_auth{n,z}_webid, SPARQL/Update and some pushing/pulling of RDF graph updates. |
| 19:57:52 | <tobyink> | virtuoso does sparql update IIRC |
| 19:59:00 | <PovAddict> | facebook will allow custom usernames |
| 19:59:05 | <PovAddict> | mainly to use on URLs |
| 19:59:09 | <kidehen> | .uri virtuoso |
| 19:59:42 | <PovAddict> | http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=90316352130 |
| 19:59:56 | <PovAddict> | C:|Facebook Blog - Coming Soon: Facebook Usernames |
| 20:00:45 | <kidehen> | .sparql describe <http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso> |
| 20:00:47 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/ac6671b721b8abfbf61d157bc25e29a0c3a84848> |
| 20:01:33 | <kidehen> | .sparql describe <http://data.openlinksw.com/oplweb/product_family/virtuoso#this> |
| 20:01:34 | <mttlbot> | kidehen: <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/mttlbot/saved/ac6671b721b8abfbf61d157bc25e29a0c3a84848> |
| 20:02:30 | <PovAddict> | empty graph? |
| 20:02:36 | <PovAddict> | with a zillion prefixes |
| 20:03:17 | <melvster> | facebook finally do vanity uri's only 6 years after myspace |
| 20:04:14 | <melvster> | pipian: i think arc2 would work with that, im taking a slightly different approach of putting the auth in the controllre |
| 20:22:17 | <Pipian_> | melvster: I'm more thinking about scalability, e.g. I have an ACL that depends on friends of me, or friends of friends of me. I register my interest a-la pub-sub and build my ACL that way. |
| 21:11:57 | <melvster> | Pipian_: i was thinking of storing one acl per user |
| 22:00:15 | <melvster> | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8090538.stm |
| 22:01:02 | <melvster> | D: BBC: Berners Lee on the future of the web |
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