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07:21:47<kjetilkWork>.seen chaals
07:21:47<phenny>Sorry, I haven't seen chaals around.
07:57:04<FabGandon>phenny, .seen FabGandon
07:57:20<FabGandon>phenny: .seen FabGandon
07:57:30<FabGandon>.seen FabGandon
07:57:31<phenny>FabGandon: I last saw fabgandon at 2008-10-15 07:57:20 UTC on #swig
07:58:13<FabGandon>.g vocamp
07:58:14<phenny>FabGandon: http://my.opera.com/tomheath/blog/2008/09/24/vocamp-day-zero
09:38:17<ghard>yvesr, how/where do you get the geodata in dbtune.org ?
09:39:04<ghard>For event recommendations.
09:41:15<ghard>ACTION just noticed Melkweg is somewhere in Germany ;)
09:44:48<yvesr>ghard: i geocode adresses of venues using google
09:50:49<ghard>yvesr: I see.
09:51:23<ghard>Was testing the service and saw this for a concert in Melkweg, Amsterdam: <wgs:Point dc:title="Melkweg, 49847 Wielen, Germany" georss:point="52.550595 6.732628" wgs:lat="6.732628" wgs:long="52.550595">
09:51:32<ghard>So made me wonder :)
09:51:45<yvesr>heh :)
09:52:07<yvesr>i need to improve that somehow - i think the new last.fm api can help :)
09:52:08<ghard>Was there for a Victor Bailey concert this weekend :)
09:52:13<ghard>Yeah
09:53:35<ghard>Re. the mappings between our DAV metadata extraction schema for ID3 tags and MO. Methinks we'll let UMBEL handle it.
09:54:05<ghard>I'll have a closer look today.
09:56:02<yvesr>ghard: cool, np :-) looks like a reasonable way to do it :)
09:57:13<ghard>I'm gonna check how the PLIST muncher would like my iTunes library file later.
10:23:24<bblfish>http://www.flickr.com/photos/bblfish/2938006277/
10:24:16<bblfish>A:| sketch of an X509 ontology for web of trust applications. UML
10:24:53<bblfish>A: has anyone developed ontologies that cover X509?
10:25:35<bblfish>A: there is wot: http://xmlns.com/wot/0.1/
10:26:10<bblfish>A: but it is quite specific to PGP, GPG
11:52:44<danja>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/category/this-weeks-semantic-web
11:53:19<danja>B:| This Week's Semantic Web
11:53:56<danja>B: now delegated - first volunteer is burningbirg
13:03:38<bblfish>If I remember cwm can do some signing magic on rdf files
13:05:14<bblfish>mhh here: http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/doc/Trust
14:17:37<bblfish>btw, is it worth my reading that still...?
14:17:49<bblfish>I am just about to try to install python crypto
14:57:16<bblfish>hjs@bblfish:0$ cwm -help | grep crypt
14:57:17<bblfish>--crypto Enable processing of crypto builtin functions. Requires python crypto.
14:57:28<bblfish>any ideas what the best way to get that onto an OSX box is?
15:04:42<shellac__>bblfish: easy_install?
15:05:13<bblfish>easy_install ? is that a python thing?
15:05:28<shellac__>yep, like gem or cpan
15:05:43<bblfish>oh I see
15:05:44<shellac__>disclaimer: I'm not a python person
15:06:11<bblfish>yes, I have /usr/bin/easy_install-2.5
15:06:40<shellac__>the packages are called 'eggs', iirc
15:12:15<bblfish>ACTION wonders which package it is though...
15:23:58<bblfish>easy_install-2.5 pycrypto
15:24:04<bblfish>seems to have done something
15:24:49<bblfish>It does not seem to be working with cwm though
15:25:40<bblfish>ah it works
15:26:12<bblfish>ACTION now I don't know if it did not work before I installed that package...
15:29:15<bblfish>cd $( dirname $(find ~/Programming/w3c/ -name access-gen-master.n3))
15:29:28<bblfish>hjs@bblfish:0$ cwm access-gen-master.n3 --think --purge --crypto
15:35:00<drw>hello everybody
15:36:31<drw>I'd like to change joomla to "semantic-web"
15:36:59<drw>but I don't know for where I should begining
15:37:58<reto>joomla the portal software?
15:42:17<drw>yes
15:42:24<reto>drw, do mean using an rdf store and semantic linking instead of an rdbms?
15:43:00<reto>ACTION 's train is arriving at destination
15:43:51<reto>drw, could you tell me more by email, as I have to leave now, my address is reto.bachmann@trialox.org
15:45:38<drw>of course
15:48:19<bblfish>http://buytaert.net/drupal-the-semantic-web-and-search
15:48:54<bblfish>C:| very nice article on Drupal the semantic web and search (with a Yahoo Search monkey video to make the point)
16:06:47<drw>very nice the article
16:07:54<drw>Do you have something about joomla ?
16:23:14<drw>sorry for this question.. but what are the first steps for sw ?
16:46:52<Yudai>does anyone know any large rdf data set except DBpedia?
16:48:59<shellac__>uniprot?
16:48:59<mmt>there is the Tiger data-set
16:54:36<Yudai>thanks, i check them
17:05:40<yvesr>Yudai: dbtune.org ?
17:07:48<Yudai>yvesr: oh this seems very good to mix with DBpedia. thanks
17:09:19<mmt>yudai, this page here: http://www.rdfabout.com/demo/census/#geo can give you a > billion triples, but i dont know what you mean by large datasets
17:09:25<mmt>yves, :)
17:10:04<mmt>yves, have you started on the new last.fm api?
17:10:09<Yudai>mmt: this is exactlly large :)
17:10:22<Yudai>but difficult to use
17:10:40<yvesr>mmt: nope, sorry. i ve been starting the new job and finishin the thesis at the same time, which has been a bit tough :-)
17:11:11<mmt>yvesr, me too, new / finishing thesis is stressful
17:11:37<Yudai>I want some data sets to demonstrate executing single query against multiple data sets.
17:12:48<mmt>yvesr, am happy to help though, am keen to get lastfm data, could probably spend a day hacking at some point, but prolog is not my prefered language :)
17:13:12<yvesr>mmt: *what* ??
17:13:16<yvesr>:-)
17:13:53<yvesr>thanks mmt, i hope to have some time to hack on it next week or the week after
19:02:46<earle>http://www.ftrain.com/a-semantic-web-fear.html
19:03:15<earle>D:|Learning to Fear the Semantic Web (Ftrain.com)
19:03:33<earle>D:Good piece about the Thomson vs Zotero lawsuit and its implications for OpenCalais.
19:05:14<earle>D:"[N]ow that the “Semantic Web,” or “Web 3.0,” or the “Linked Data Web,” or the “Web of Really, That's How to Query Over an rdf:Bag?” or whatever they're calling it, is viable enough that you can't shrug off legal worries—now that the Semantic Web is no longer just a research project, if someone owns the taxonomy you're using and changes it up on you, what rights do you have in the matter?"
20:58:42<MacTed>Yudai - the bio2rdf data set has 2+ billion triples in 27 interlinked data sub-sets. for future reference, you might get faster answers by looking to http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/DataSets

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