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14:54:27<mustang_>hi there
14:54:45<mustang_>I have a question regarding forming sparql queries
14:56:06<mustang_>Let that I have an rdf document like this http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card
14:56:32<mustang_>how could I select all triples that has foaf predicates
14:56:53<mustang_>That means I don't want to see vCard or any other properties
14:56:58<mustang_>Could I?
15:26:15<masaka>mustang_, a simple way woudl be: SELECT * WHERE {?s ?p ?o . FILTER regex(str(?p), "^http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/")}
20:14:49<kidehen>http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=449
20:15:21<kidehen>A: UMBEL Ontology Release & Overview from Mike Bergman
20:16:47<kidehen>A: We now have a Data Dictionary oriented Linked Data space that to compliments related efforts such as DBpedia and the rest of the LOD Cloud
20:17:38<kidehen>A: Corection: We now have a Data Dictionary oriented Linked Data space that compliments related efforts such as DBpedia and the rest of the LOD Cloud
20:18:07<kidehen>A: well a bad typing day in general also :-)
20:25:14<kidehen>http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2008/07/16/starting-to-play-with-the-umbel-ontology/
20:25:32<kidehen>B: Working examples of UMBEL utility by Frederick Giasson
20:26:08<kidehen>B: key theme: exploding the range of a domain's reference via linkage with other ontologies
20:26:28<danbri>B:The range of a domain?
20:26:58<kidehen>danbri: expanding the range of reference
20:27:15<kidehen>danbri: the post uses FOAF as example when describing a business for instance
20:27:16<danbri>ok, i was wondering if either term was meant in sense of rdfs:domain, rdfs:range ...
20:27:25<danbri>ok sounds handy!
20:27:27<kidehen>danbri: no :-)
20:27:40<danbri>we need better ways to document mixed-namespace descriptive patterns
20:27:46<danbri>eg. sparql pattern directory
20:27:46<kidehen>danbri: I urge you to digest the post
20:28:09<kidehen>danbri: yes, but we need foundation for all of these things as you know only too well
20:28:16<danbri>ACTION clicks but is in nyc, gotta run to meetups and talks in a sec
20:28:18<danbri>all true
20:28:53<kidehen>danbri: anyway do digest when you have a quiet moment. This is a seminal moment re. Linked Data and the Semantic Web (imho, of course)
20:29:07<danbri>'But I don’t want to describe a business as an “Organization”, or a NGO as another “Organization”. They are two quite different concepts, even if the upper concept that links them is an “Organization”.'
20:29:25<danbri>the language there is a little confusing, ... but basic idea is to offer refined subclasses?
20:29:31<kidehen>danbri: Fred is a French speaker re. first language
20:29:44<danbri>actually i have a strong motivation to make an NonProfit class
20:30:11<danbri>i want to make a way for foaf users to write a CC-like license for their data, and have any ad revenue from aggregators go to the nonprofit org of their choice
20:30:13<kidehen>danbri: but he is saying, linkage can get a good chunk if it done for you
20:30:36<danbri>i'll have a proper read :)
20:30:37<kidehen>danbri: so linking to Open Cyc expand the generic to the more specific
20:30:53<kidehen>danbri: s/expand/expands
20:31:11<danbri>umbel looks like a mini-cyc...
20:31:13<kidehen>danbri: the explosion he describes
20:31:26<danbri>the cyc chaps have started a foaf mapping too btw
20:31:40<danbri>i'll follow up on that, send mail...
20:31:59<kidehen>danbri: yes-ish, but more like one of Yoda's tools
20:32:31<kidehen>danbri: OpenCyc is like Yoda, lots of wisdom, but had to hang out of site for a while
20:32:55<kidehen>danbri: but we are now hitting episode III (web or star wars) :-)
20:33:22<kidehen>danbri: sorry original episode I, actually
20:33:37<danbri>heheh, that metaphor takes some unpacking
20:33:40<danbri>who is Chewie?
20:33:45<danbri>btw see /msg
20:33:51<kidehen>danbri: k
20:34:43<kidehen>danbri: did you get response?
20:35:59<danbri>yup
20:38:54<MacTed>A:
20:42:08<MacTed>A:| UMBEL Ontology Release & Overview from Mike Bergman
20:42:08<MacTed>A1:""
20:42:08<MacTed>A1:"kidehen: ``We now have a Data Dictionary oriented Linked Data space that complements related efforts such as DBpedia and the rest of the LOD Cloud'' "
20:42:08<MacTed>A2:""
20:42:08<MacTed>A2:""
20:42:16<MacTed>A:
20:42:30<MacTed>:-)
20:42:35<MacTed>much cleaner
20:43:45<MacTed>B:| Working examples of UMBEL utility by Frederick Giasson
20:43:45<MacTed>B1:""
20:50:48<kidehen>MacTed: thnxs!
20:51:51<MacTed>s'what I'm here for ;-)

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