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| 14:54:27 | <mustang_> | hi there |
| 14:54:45 | <mustang_> | I have a question regarding forming sparql queries |
| 14:56:06 | <mustang_> | Let that I have an rdf document like this http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card |
| 14:56:32 | <mustang_> | how could I select all triples that has foaf predicates |
| 14:56:53 | <mustang_> | That means I don't want to see vCard or any other properties |
| 14:56:58 | <mustang_> | Could I? |
| 15:26:15 | <masaka> | mustang_, a simple way woudl be: SELECT * WHERE {?s ?p ?o . FILTER regex(str(?p), "^http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/")} |
| 20:14:49 | <kidehen> | http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=449 |
| 20:15:21 | <kidehen> | A: UMBEL Ontology Release & Overview from Mike Bergman |
| 20:16:47 | <kidehen> | A: We now have a Data Dictionary oriented Linked Data space that to compliments related efforts such as DBpedia and the rest of the LOD Cloud |
| 20:17:38 | <kidehen> | A: Corection: We now have a Data Dictionary oriented Linked Data space that compliments related efforts such as DBpedia and the rest of the LOD Cloud |
| 20:18:07 | <kidehen> | A: well a bad typing day in general also :-) |
| 20:25:14 | <kidehen> | http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2008/07/16/starting-to-play-with-the-umbel-ontology/ |
| 20:25:32 | <kidehen> | B: Working examples of UMBEL utility by Frederick Giasson |
| 20:26:08 | <kidehen> | B: key theme: exploding the range of a domain's reference via linkage with other ontologies |
| 20:26:28 | <danbri> | B:The range of a domain? |
| 20:26:58 | <kidehen> | danbri: expanding the range of reference |
| 20:27:15 | <kidehen> | danbri: the post uses FOAF as example when describing a business for instance |
| 20:27:16 | <danbri> | ok, i was wondering if either term was meant in sense of rdfs:domain, rdfs:range ... |
| 20:27:25 | <danbri> | ok sounds handy! |
| 20:27:27 | <kidehen> | danbri: no :-) |
| 20:27:40 | <danbri> | we need better ways to document mixed-namespace descriptive patterns |
| 20:27:46 | <danbri> | eg. sparql pattern directory |
| 20:27:46 | <kidehen> | danbri: I urge you to digest the post |
| 20:28:09 | <kidehen> | danbri: yes, but we need foundation for all of these things as you know only too well |
| 20:28:16 | <danbri> | ACTION clicks but is in nyc, gotta run to meetups and talks in a sec |
| 20:28:18 | <danbri> | all true |
| 20:28:53 | <kidehen> | danbri: anyway do digest when you have a quiet moment. This is a seminal moment re. Linked Data and the Semantic Web (imho, of course) |
| 20:29:07 | <danbri> | 'But I don’t want to describe a business as an “Organization”, or a NGO as another “Organization”. They are two quite different concepts, even if the upper concept that links them is an “Organization”.' |
| 20:29:25 | <danbri> | the language there is a little confusing, ... but basic idea is to offer refined subclasses? |
| 20:29:31 | <kidehen> | danbri: Fred is a French speaker re. first language |
| 20:29:44 | <danbri> | actually i have a strong motivation to make an NonProfit class |
| 20:30:11 | <danbri> | i want to make a way for foaf users to write a CC-like license for their data, and have any ad revenue from aggregators go to the nonprofit org of their choice |
| 20:30:13 | <kidehen> | danbri: but he is saying, linkage can get a good chunk if it done for you |
| 20:30:36 | <danbri> | i'll have a proper read :) |
| 20:30:37 | <kidehen> | danbri: so linking to Open Cyc expand the generic to the more specific |
| 20:30:53 | <kidehen> | danbri: s/expand/expands |
| 20:31:11 | <danbri> | umbel looks like a mini-cyc... |
| 20:31:13 | <kidehen> | danbri: the explosion he describes |
| 20:31:26 | <danbri> | the cyc chaps have started a foaf mapping too btw |
| 20:31:40 | <danbri> | i'll follow up on that, send mail... |
| 20:31:59 | <kidehen> | danbri: yes-ish, but more like one of Yoda's tools |
| 20:32:31 | <kidehen> | danbri: OpenCyc is like Yoda, lots of wisdom, but had to hang out of site for a while |
| 20:32:55 | <kidehen> | danbri: but we are now hitting episode III (web or star wars) :-) |
| 20:33:22 | <kidehen> | danbri: sorry original episode I, actually |
| 20:33:37 | <danbri> | heheh, that metaphor takes some unpacking |
| 20:33:40 | <danbri> | who is Chewie? |
| 20:33:45 | <danbri> | btw see /msg |
| 20:33:51 | <kidehen> | danbri: k |
| 20:34:43 | <kidehen> | danbri: did you get response? |
| 20:35:59 | <danbri> | yup |
| 20:38:54 | <MacTed> | A: |
| 20:42:08 | <MacTed> | A:| UMBEL Ontology Release & Overview from Mike Bergman |
| 20:42:08 | <MacTed> | A1:"" |
| 20:42:08 | <MacTed> | A1:"kidehen: ``We now have a Data Dictionary oriented Linked Data space that complements related efforts such as DBpedia and the rest of the LOD Cloud'' " |
| 20:42:08 | <MacTed> | A2:"" |
| 20:42:08 | <MacTed> | A2:"" |
| 20:42:16 | <MacTed> | A: |
| 20:42:30 | <MacTed> | :-) |
| 20:42:35 | <MacTed> | much cleaner |
| 20:43:45 | <MacTed> | B:| Working examples of UMBEL utility by Frederick Giasson |
| 20:43:45 | <MacTed> | B1:"" |
| 20:50:48 | <kidehen> | MacTed: thnxs! |
| 20:51:51 | <MacTed> | s'what I'm here for ;-) |
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