Experimental IRC log swig-2008-04-08

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01:23:56<wmealing>i'm sorry, i think i've confused this channel.
01:24:02<wmealing>is there a channel for the python swig ?
10:14:27<mhausenblas>ACTION waves hello to yvesr :)
10:16:22<kjetilkWork>ACTION waves at mhausenblas
10:19:57<yvesr>ACTION waves hello to kjetilkWork *and* mhausenblas
10:21:06<kjetilkWork>ACTION waves hello to yvesr too :-)
10:22:34<yvesr>we just need one more hello to make our hello graph symmetric
10:22:41<yvesr>:-)
10:22:48<kjetilkWork>:-)
10:25:03<mhausenblas>hm
10:25:09<mhausenblas>am I supposed to wave?
10:25:30<mhausenblas>dunno. my brain is swamped with proposal stuff ;)
10:26:07<mhausenblas>ok, I wave to: kjetilkWork and now going back to polish the proposal :)
10:27:28<kjetilkWork>:-)
10:51:08<danja>anyone know of a good reference for unix/linux command line style - i.e. single-purpose things which you can chain..?
13:41:48<kjetilkWork>Anybody know if there has been done any work on interoperability between SPARQL and CQL (Contextual Query Language)?
17:30:51<mahound>what's the best tool to get some diagrams from an OWL spec?
17:31:03<mahound>protege seems to plot only classes, not properties
17:51:35<danja>dajobe, ping!
17:52:47<LeeF>ACTION wonders idly if the "pragmatic implementation" thread might be a particularly well-executed troll... but sadly knows better
17:52:47<phenny>LeeF: 02 Apr 16:24Z <kidehen> tell LeeF I've found <http://thefigtrees.net/lee/ldf-card#LDF>
17:53:13<LeeF>kidehen, are you around?
17:58:33<LeeF>phenny, tell kidehen that http://thefigtrees.net/lee/ldf-card#LDF is an old URI that should redirect (properly?) to http://thefigtrees.net/id#lee, and the RDF returned should properly owl:sameAs the two.
17:58:33<phenny>LeeF: I'll pass that on when kidehen is around.
17:58:38<LeeF>thanks, phenny
18:01:58<iand>leef: i have solved the semantic web with my own implementation but I'm not sure I can share it yet
18:05:34<LeeF>iand: I tried using the quadratic equation on the semantic web but it failed to give me any solutions.
18:05:50<LeeF>ACTION is dismayed that the extent of his math knowledge is "the quadratic equation"
18:06:15<bengee>LeeF, that might just have been an ubuntu issue
18:06:32<iand>the problem with quadratics is that there are always two solutions
18:07:12<iand>we need one solution for the semantic web (as I said, I have it)
18:08:16<iand>it involves kittens, typewriters and an endless supply of sardines
18:08:59<iand>ACTION realises he's said too much
18:11:40<LeeF>ACTION scurries back to the laboratory where the abacus awaits.
19:17:25<danja>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/04/a_chat_with_dave_beckett.php
19:17:42<danja>A:| A Chat with Dave Beckett
19:18:11<danja>A: podcast, in which dajobe reveals all (mostly)
19:19:38<LeeF>A: Dave Beckett: "Have fun with the Semantic Web...it's about connecting things together, about getting the jobs done."
19:19:56<LeeF>Well put.
19:22:33<danja_>yep, he came out with some wonderfully quotable lines
19:23:48<danja_>ACTION starting with rsi from collecting the links to dajobe-related stuff
19:52:05<dajobe>heh
19:58:21<danja_>dajobe, thanks - I reckon it's a good 'un
20:33:07<DanC>ACTION gets another SPO(G) idea; gives it a try...
20:33:15<kasei>does dbpedia seem down for anyone else?
20:35:18<DanC>hmm... implementing each() and any() over SPO(G) seems like kind of a pain, now that I think about it
20:39:44<cygri>kasei, same here
20:39:50<cygri>kidehen, you there? see above
20:40:01<kasei>seems every time i want to play with it, it's down :(
20:40:06<kidehen>cygri: yes for a few secs
20:40:06<phenny>kidehen: 17:58Z <LeeF> tell kidehen that http://thefigtrees.net/lee/ldf-card#LDF is an old URI that should redirect (properly?) to http://thefigtrees.net/id#lee, and the RDF returned should properly owl:sameAs the two.
20:40:41<kidehen>cygri: let me check quickly
20:41:01<cygri>kidehen: pubby is unresponsive again
20:41:22<kidehen>cygri: grrrr..
20:41:53<iv_an_ru__>http://dbpedia.openlinksw.com/sparql works for me
20:42:09<kidehen>iv_an_ru__: yes, it's pubby
20:42:17<iv_an_ru__>ups, how to un-comment a link ?
20:42:24<kidehen>cygri: due to Tomcat etc..
20:42:34<cygri>kidehen: this really bugs me
20:42:56<cygri>kidehen: pubby is such a simple app, it shouldn't be that hard to keep it running
20:43:02<kidehen>cygri: long story, but it's why we decided to implement many of these protocols in virtuoso instead :-)
20:43:41<kidehen>cygri: the problem is Tomcat I believe as it is the part that is ultimately has to handle the concurrent sessions
20:44:15<cygri>kidehen: yeah but tomcat is solid and used in production in lots of places, it shouldn't have trouble keeping such a small app running
20:44:28<cygri>kidehen: i suspect that there's some stupid detail in the pubby code
20:44:49<kidehen>cygri: maybe, but I haven't looked in there at all
20:45:40<cygri>kidehen: the code doesn't do anything non-obvious, but i'm not a java servlet expert, so maybe i'm totally missing something
20:46:36<cygri>kidehen: i'll try to get a code review from one of our local java guys ... that's the only idea i have at the moment
20:47:43<kidehen>cygri: Zdravko should be able to look into this as we are a Tomcat host (i.e. Virtuoso) also
20:47:52<kidehen>cygri: problem is just time :-(
20:48:02<kidehen>cygri: pubby coming back up
20:48:22<cygri>kidehen: i know :-( thanks for keeping it running anyway
20:48:40<cygri>kasei: dbpedia up again
20:49:30<iv_an_ru__>I can launch a mirror, tomkat-free :)
20:50:00<kidehen>cygri: up
23:49:25<darkxanthos>hi guys... anybody know of a good source of public semantic data?
23:49:34<darkxanthos>looking to make a prototype for my company
23:50:34<Arnia>darkxanthos: The stuff from the Linked Data initiative is probably a good bet
23:50:41<Arnia>darkxanthos: like dbpedia, etc.
23:50:51<darkxanthos>nice ok I'll google on some of that ty :)

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