Experimental IRC log swig-2008-03-24

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These logs are provided as an experiment in indexing discussions using IRCHub.py, Irc2RDF.hs, and SIOC.

00:05:25<dajobe>the turtle spec has sections on comparing languages
00:05:45<dajobe>for extra fun, note json has different-again escapes from n3, turtle, sparql & python
00:06:34<dajobe>timbl: re that diagram, turtle does not have '='
00:06:43<dajobe>it's in full N3
00:07:06<dajobe>@prefix should be in turtle layer too
00:07:56<dajobe>ACTION goes to plant some err.. plants
02:00:55<timbl>ACTION updates the diagram
02:02:02<timbl>http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/diagrams/n3/venn.svg
02:02:57<timbl>A:|Venn diagram of features in N3, SPARQL where clauses, Turtle and NTriples
02:06:22<dajobe>that looks better
02:41:25<karlUshi>http://blogmatrix.blogmatrix.com/:entry:blogmatrix-2008-03-16-0000/
02:41:45<karlUshi>B:|A typical day working with RDF and FOAF
02:42:04<karlUshi>B:"The problem – a problem – with FOAF and RDF is quite simple. People don’t want formats that can do anything, they want formats that can do something. "
02:42:23<karlUshi>B:"I got a Flickr API downloader going in about 30 minutes, taking my time. I’ve put hours into FOAF and still am unhappy."
02:58:26<dajobe>B:although what he wants to do isn't entirely clear, it seems that it requires an aggregate graph to do a query, which would mean a sparql query with multiple FROMs. Comparing that (albeit unclear to me) case to something very specific like a flickr downloader, don't seem the same class of problem.
02:59:00<dajobe>B:and I've written flickr API code, so I know that's not trivial either
03:55:55<CloCkWeR1>ACTION points dajobe to http://blogmatrix.blogmatrix.com/:entry:blogmatrix-2008-03-16-0000/#pblogmatrix-2008-03-24-0000
07:16:20<CloCkWeR2>ACTION tries to think of a few digg-audience friendly semantic web applications (or functionality that is easier to do in everyday life because of semantic web tools)
09:13:29<mahound>ACTION is surprised that, from the universe of social networking sites, hi5 is the only one providing RDF natively
09:14:42<mahound>ACTION would expect i.e. facebook to do so... but hi5?
09:14:51<mahound>surprising...
09:42:32<mahound>oops... hi5 foaf seems to provide the foaf:Person as bnode
14:16:25<Wikier>http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=802201
14:16:45<Wikier>C:|SPARQL Wrapper for Python 1.1.0 is out
14:17:35<Wikier>C:from this release we needed to rename package as SPARQLWrapper
14:18:10<Wikier>C:so you will need to update your programs in order to be compatible with latest versions of the library
14:18:25<Wikier>C:for more information visit the [page of the project|http://sparql-wrapper.sourceforge.net/]
21:40:19<mahound>night

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