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| 07:07:16 | <mhausenblas> | danbri? |
| 08:07:59 | <mahound> | hello |
| 08:20:51 | <EtnaRosso> | ciao |
| 08:30:29 | <mhausenblas> | hi there |
| 08:31:14 | <mhausenblas> | so, now irs (http://143.224.254.32/irs/) does sindice look-up if it does not know about a URI |
| 08:31:40 | <mhausenblas> | hence it enables to 'walk the LOD' manually |
| 08:32:09 | <mhausenblas> | how about 'LOD Walker' (may the semantics be with you ;) |
| 08:34:31 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION thinks that this can also be used as a simple LOD debugger |
| 08:39:11 | <kjetilkWork> | ACTION wonders what the Turtle MIME type is these days...? |
| 08:41:24 | <mhausenblas> | not http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle/#sec-mime ? |
| 08:41:41 | <mhausenblas> | hi kjetilkWork, btw ;) |
| 08:43:07 | <mhausenblas> | anyone knows a good property (if possible from a widely deployed vocabulary) that expresses kinda <#this> POWERED_BY <#somelib> |
| 08:43:29 | <mhausenblas> | dunno but did not find anything in ODPA and FOAF |
| 08:43:41 | <mhausenblas> | s/ODPA/DOAP |
| 08:46:31 | <kjetilkWork> | mhausenblas, I just has this strong feeling that I've heard that text/rdf+turtle has been submitted, but I can't find it now... |
| 08:47:03 | <mhausenblas> | o yeah, right |
| 08:47:19 | <mhausenblas> | gimme a sec ; IIRC it was a W3c team submission |
| 08:47:39 | <mhausenblas> | http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/turtle/ |
| 08:48:08 | <mhausenblas> | A:| Turtle - Terse RDF Triple Language |
| 08:48:13 | <mahound> | mhausenblas: what's the purpose of RDF? |
| 08:48:18 | <mahound> | s/RDF/IRS/ |
| 08:48:21 | <mahound> | :) |
| 08:48:22 | <mhausenblas> | ;) |
| 08:48:37 | <mhausenblas> | well, the former one would have been more easy to explain ;) |
| 08:49:09 | <mhausenblas> | no, seriously: we started out in riese.joanneum.at with the idea of user-contributed interlinking |
| 08:49:21 | <kjetilkWork> | right, so text/turtle for now |
| 08:49:36 | <mhausenblas> | however, in riese the UCI was bound to the riese datasets |
| 08:50:22 | <mhausenblas> | that is all the subjects of a semantic links were always restricted to some riese data (e.g. http://riese.joanneum.at/data/economy/) |
| 08:50:34 | <mahound> | ok, fair enough ;) |
| 08:50:40 | <mhausenblas> | so, with IRS we want to enable a generic UCI |
| 08:51:06 | <mhausenblas> | just as wiki where you enter some text, in IRS you enter URIs |
| 08:51:48 | <mhausenblas> | the only restricted part is the 'semantic link' itself (currently owl:sameAs, foaf:topic, foaf:knows, and rdfs:seeAlso) |
| 08:52:13 | <mhausenblas> | + IRS supports s simple provenance mechanism |
| 08:52:21 | <mahound> | yes, that's what made me wonder what it is used for |
| 08:52:35 | <mhausenblas> | that is it puts every statement into a named graph |
| 08:52:39 | <mahound> | so, it's just graph interlinking |
| 08:52:43 | <mhausenblas> | well, two purposes |
| 08:52:48 | <mahound> | ? |
| 08:52:56 | <mhausenblas> | 1. if you do a ask |
| 08:53:08 | <mhausenblas> | then you get the results also in XHTML+RDFa |
| 08:53:19 | <mhausenblas> | which then could be further used |
| 08:53:39 | <mhausenblas> | the second one is what I mentioned, above; a kinda simple LOD debugger |
| 08:53:58 | <mahound> | ok |
| 08:54:00 | <mahound> | i see |
| 08:54:17 | <mhausenblas> | however, it is not twine, right ;) |
| 08:54:49 | <mhausenblas> | it is a simple demonstrator to text/evaluate UCI |
| 10:44:52 | <danieljohnlewis> | ACTION is very said because Linking Open Data didn't get into the GSoC this year! http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ |
| 10:44:57 | <danieljohnlewis> | :( |
| 12:03:42 | <EtnaRosso> | see you later |
| 13:01:30 | <mahound> | ACTION still laughing at http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/03/12/bc.eu.spt.soc.realmadri.ap/index.html |
| 13:06:47 | <mahound> | EtnaRosso: this Calabresi guy is famous in italy? |
| 13:07:41 | <EtnaRosso> | really i don't know |
| 13:07:47 | <EtnaRosso> | what is his name? |
| 13:07:53 | <mahound> | Paolo Calabresi |
| 13:07:58 | <mahound> | check the link |
| 13:09:21 | <EtnaRosso> | ah yes he is an Actor |
| 13:09:26 | <EtnaRosso> | really funny |
| 13:09:42 | <mahound> | i mean... he doesn't look like nick cage... come on |
| 13:10:13 | <mahound> | thesee guys probably don't see many movies |
| 13:10:43 | <mahound> | and i don't undestand how they didn't notice his accent |
| 13:11:40 | <mahound> | it's one of the best pranks i've ever seen |
| 13:15:27 | <EtnaRosso> | what isa a prank? |
| 13:16:23 | <EtnaRosso> | mahound, do you know if FaCT supports "most specific concept" task? |
| 13:18:33 | <mahound> | a prank? a trick |
| 13:19:11 | <mahound> | like, tricking someone into doing something that people will laugh at |
| 13:19:53 | <mahound> | like prank calls |
| 13:20:38 | <EtnaRosso> | ah good |
| 13:21:13 | <EtnaRosso> | thank you for the explaination |
| 13:21:21 | <mahound> | EtnaRosso: as for the FaCT think, i'm not much into logics :) |
| 13:21:26 | <mahound> | so, don't know that |
| 13:21:47 | <EtnaRosso> | from the web site of fatc this "fact" is not clear |
| 13:22:58 | <mahound> | oh, it's common lisp... cool |
| 13:26:28 | <EtnaRosso> | it is a DIG reasoner |
| 13:26:59 | <mahound> | yes, that i understood :P |
| 13:27:08 | <mahound> | (but not much more) |
| 18:37:42 | <mahound> | hum... |
| 18:38:21 | <mahound> | can we say that the set of URIs is contained in that of the URI refs? |
| 18:38:50 | <mahound> | U c Ur ? |
| 20:02:09 | <kidehen> | http://markmail.org/ |
| 20:02:47 | <kidehen> | B: Archive of W3C's mailing lists |
| 20:03:15 | <kidehen> | B: I would like to have the same data in RDF if I can get the source :-) |
| 20:03:34 | <kidehen> | B: It would be nice to juxtapose XQuery and SPARQL etc. |
| 20:21:53 | <DanC> | kidehen, all the mailboxes are available. I think one per quarter per mailing list |
| 20:30:41 | <kidehen> | DanC: Do you know any of the folks behind Mark Mail? |
| 20:31:49 | <DanC> | no, but they don't have original data |
| 20:32:29 | <DanC> | when you said "if I can get the source" did you mean "if I can get the aggregate data"? |
| 21:19:56 | <sbp> | ACTION replies to Jonathan Rees's follow-up call for help about FindingResourceDescriptions |
| 23:12:20 | <bear> | ok, at the risk of the answer being painfully obvious, here is my question: |
| 23:12:45 | <bear> | trying to comment on the RDFa blog about an article, so I click on the comments link - it says I have to be logged in to comment |
| 23:13:03 | <bear> | but there doesn't seem to be a signup/register option, only another link to login |
| 23:13:28 | <bear> | so, how do I login to a site that affords no way to register with the site? |
| 23:14:00 | <alder> | hm that's not a problem of RDFa i guess |
| 23:14:03 | <alder> | whats the url? |
| 23:14:04 | <bear> | and I'm asking in here because there doesn't seem to be a "contact" link on the site |
| 23:14:15 | <bear> | http://rdfa.info |
| 23:14:25 | <bear> | so yes, it's a problem of RDFa :) |
| 23:16:43 | <kasei> | yeah, i wasn't thrilled earlier when i found that I needed to create an account to view the RDFa tutorials. |
| 23:17:16 | <bear> | my whole reason to comment is that it seems really silly to create a feed for the mailing list (for monitoring) but to not include the full text |
| 23:17:18 | <alder> | registering is disabled probably |
| 23:17:58 | <bear> | but there are comments - so this leaves me the impression that RDFa site is for people who are already RDFa folks and that feels to me to be new person unfriendly |
| 23:19:33 | <bear> | anyway - if someone here knows how runs RDFa site let them know I really would like to look into implementing it on my companies site but the last 1/2 hour of searching has lead to nothing barriers |
| 23:19:43 | <bear> | so I'll be back sometime I guess |
| 23:22:39 | <alder> | maybe it just allows pingbacks/trackbacks |
| 23:22:51 | <alder> | or are there 'real' comments? |
| 23:23:03 | <fuz__> | pretty sure ive anon-commented there in the past |
| 23:23:08 | <fuz__> | maybe upgrade borked settings somewhere |
| 23:23:30 | <fuz__> | (im not admin, just speculation) |
| 23:24:15 | <bear_afk> | *shrug* who knows - I'll swing by later to see if someone pipes up - thanks |
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