Experimental IRC log swig-2008-03-18

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07:07:16<mhausenblas>danbri?
08:07:59<mahound>hello
08:20:51<EtnaRosso>ciao
08:30:29<mhausenblas>hi there
08:31:14<mhausenblas>so, now irs (http://143.224.254.32/irs/) does sindice look-up if it does not know about a URI
08:31:40<mhausenblas>hence it enables to 'walk the LOD' manually
08:32:09<mhausenblas>how about 'LOD Walker' (may the semantics be with you ;)
08:34:31<mhausenblas>ACTION thinks that this can also be used as a simple LOD debugger
08:39:11<kjetilkWork>ACTION wonders what the Turtle MIME type is these days...?
08:41:24<mhausenblas>not http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle/#sec-mime ?
08:41:41<mhausenblas>hi kjetilkWork, btw ;)
08:43:07<mhausenblas>anyone knows a good property (if possible from a widely deployed vocabulary) that expresses kinda <#this> POWERED_BY <#somelib>
08:43:29<mhausenblas>dunno but did not find anything in ODPA and FOAF
08:43:41<mhausenblas>s/ODPA/DOAP
08:46:31<kjetilkWork>mhausenblas, I just has this strong feeling that I've heard that text/rdf+turtle has been submitted, but I can't find it now...
08:47:03<mhausenblas>o yeah, right
08:47:19<mhausenblas>gimme a sec ; IIRC it was a W3c team submission
08:47:39<mhausenblas>http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/turtle/
08:48:08<mhausenblas>A:| Turtle - Terse RDF Triple Language
08:48:13<mahound>mhausenblas: what's the purpose of RDF?
08:48:18<mahound>s/RDF/IRS/
08:48:21<mahound>:)
08:48:22<mhausenblas>;)
08:48:37<mhausenblas>well, the former one would have been more easy to explain ;)
08:49:09<mhausenblas>no, seriously: we started out in riese.joanneum.at with the idea of user-contributed interlinking
08:49:21<kjetilkWork>right, so text/turtle for now
08:49:36<mhausenblas>however, in riese the UCI was bound to the riese datasets
08:50:22<mhausenblas>that is all the subjects of a semantic links were always restricted to some riese data (e.g. http://riese.joanneum.at/data/economy/)
08:50:34<mahound>ok, fair enough ;)
08:50:40<mhausenblas>so, with IRS we want to enable a generic UCI
08:51:06<mhausenblas>just as wiki where you enter some text, in IRS you enter URIs
08:51:48<mhausenblas>the only restricted part is the 'semantic link' itself (currently owl:sameAs, foaf:topic, foaf:knows, and rdfs:seeAlso)
08:52:13<mhausenblas>+ IRS supports s simple provenance mechanism
08:52:21<mahound>yes, that's what made me wonder what it is used for
08:52:35<mhausenblas>that is it puts every statement into a named graph
08:52:39<mahound>so, it's just graph interlinking
08:52:43<mhausenblas>well, two purposes
08:52:48<mahound>?
08:52:56<mhausenblas>1. if you do a ask
08:53:08<mhausenblas>then you get the results also in XHTML+RDFa
08:53:19<mhausenblas>which then could be further used
08:53:39<mhausenblas>the second one is what I mentioned, above; a kinda simple LOD debugger
08:53:58<mahound>ok
08:54:00<mahound>i see
08:54:17<mhausenblas>however, it is not twine, right ;)
08:54:49<mhausenblas>it is a simple demonstrator to text/evaluate UCI
10:44:52<danieljohnlewis>ACTION is very said because Linking Open Data didn't get into the GSoC this year! http://code.google.com/soc/2008/
10:44:57<danieljohnlewis>:(
12:03:42<EtnaRosso>see you later
13:01:30<mahound>ACTION still laughing at http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/03/12/bc.eu.spt.soc.realmadri.ap/index.html
13:06:47<mahound>EtnaRosso: this Calabresi guy is famous in italy?
13:07:41<EtnaRosso>really i don't know
13:07:47<EtnaRosso>what is his name?
13:07:53<mahound>Paolo Calabresi
13:07:58<mahound>check the link
13:09:21<EtnaRosso>ah yes he is an Actor
13:09:26<EtnaRosso>really funny
13:09:42<mahound>i mean... he doesn't look like nick cage... come on
13:10:13<mahound>thesee guys probably don't see many movies
13:10:43<mahound>and i don't undestand how they didn't notice his accent
13:11:40<mahound>it's one of the best pranks i've ever seen
13:15:27<EtnaRosso>what isa a prank?
13:16:23<EtnaRosso>mahound, do you know if FaCT supports "most specific concept" task?
13:18:33<mahound>a prank? a trick
13:19:11<mahound>like, tricking someone into doing something that people will laugh at
13:19:53<mahound>like prank calls
13:20:38<EtnaRosso>ah good
13:21:13<EtnaRosso>thank you for the explaination
13:21:21<mahound>EtnaRosso: as for the FaCT think, i'm not much into logics :)
13:21:26<mahound>so, don't know that
13:21:47<EtnaRosso>from the web site of fatc this "fact" is not clear
13:22:58<mahound>oh, it's common lisp... cool
13:26:28<EtnaRosso>it is a DIG reasoner
13:26:59<mahound>yes, that i understood :P
13:27:08<mahound>(but not much more)
18:37:42<mahound>hum...
18:38:21<mahound>can we say that the set of URIs is contained in that of the URI refs?
18:38:50<mahound>U c Ur ?
20:02:09<kidehen>http://markmail.org/
20:02:47<kidehen>B: Archive of W3C's mailing lists
20:03:15<kidehen>B: I would like to have the same data in RDF if I can get the source :-)
20:03:34<kidehen>B: It would be nice to juxtapose XQuery and SPARQL etc.
20:21:53<DanC>kidehen, all the mailboxes are available. I think one per quarter per mailing list
20:30:41<kidehen>DanC: Do you know any of the folks behind Mark Mail?
20:31:49<DanC>no, but they don't have original data
20:32:29<DanC>when you said "if I can get the source" did you mean "if I can get the aggregate data"?
21:19:56<sbp>ACTION replies to Jonathan Rees's follow-up call for help about FindingResourceDescriptions
23:12:20<bear>ok, at the risk of the answer being painfully obvious, here is my question:
23:12:45<bear>trying to comment on the RDFa blog about an article, so I click on the comments link - it says I have to be logged in to comment
23:13:03<bear>but there doesn't seem to be a signup/register option, only another link to login
23:13:28<bear>so, how do I login to a site that affords no way to register with the site?
23:14:00<alder>hm that's not a problem of RDFa i guess
23:14:03<alder>whats the url?
23:14:04<bear>and I'm asking in here because there doesn't seem to be a "contact" link on the site
23:14:15<bear>http://rdfa.info
23:14:25<bear>so yes, it's a problem of RDFa :)
23:16:43<kasei>yeah, i wasn't thrilled earlier when i found that I needed to create an account to view the RDFa tutorials.
23:17:16<bear>my whole reason to comment is that it seems really silly to create a feed for the mailing list (for monitoring) but to not include the full text
23:17:18<alder>registering is disabled probably
23:17:58<bear>but there are comments - so this leaves me the impression that RDFa site is for people who are already RDFa folks and that feels to me to be new person unfriendly
23:19:33<bear>anyway - if someone here knows how runs RDFa site let them know I really would like to look into implementing it on my companies site but the last 1/2 hour of searching has lead to nothing barriers
23:19:43<bear>so I'll be back sometime I guess
23:22:39<alder>maybe it just allows pingbacks/trackbacks
23:22:51<alder>or are there 'real' comments?
23:23:03<fuz__>pretty sure ive anon-commented there in the past
23:23:08<fuz__>maybe upgrade borked settings somewhere
23:23:30<fuz__>(im not admin, just speculation)
23:24:15<bear_afk>*shrug* who knows - I'll swing by later to see if someone pipes up - thanks

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