Experimental IRC log swig-2008-01-03

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01:48:40<yosemite>katz bagels?
01:48:43<yosemite>er
01:48:49<yosemite>wrong window...
01:48:52<yosemite>:)
02:37:34<drewp>any openlink folks here? i'm wondering about a workaround for my datetime parsing issue
08:35:21<EtnaRosso>morning all
10:59:44<danja>anyone got any idea how to do regex in sparql where you want everything except the matches?
10:59:58<danja>like FILTER !regex(?title, "^Comment", "i")
11:00:46<danja>(except that doesn't work)
11:01:43<AndyS>Defn of "doesn't work"? It needs () FILTER ( ! regex....)
11:03:19<danja>yay! thanks AndyS
11:03:45<danja>'fraid the docs around there are a bit hard to parse
11:04:50<danja>guess that calls for some kind of quick reference (maybe one day, time permitting etc...)
11:05:21<AndyS>Only simple cases: e.g. function calls, and function-call like builtins, can skip the ().
11:06:09<danja>oh right, so things with () built in are ok
11:06:38<danja>ACTION playing with Leigh's Twinkle
11:11:26<AndyS>Normally it's FILTER() - there are some special cases when these are not necessary but they are always legal. The same is true for ORDER BY.
11:11:49<AndyS>And (in ARQ and Virtuoso) expressions in the SELECT clause.
11:40:46<tommorris>Good news folks. Yesterday, I got confirmation that SemanticCamp London is happening in February.
11:41:19<tommorris>Just wondering if anyone wants to provide sponsorship for food and other expenses? :)
11:44:47<EtnaRosso>;)
12:14:16<danja>tommorris, cool - iand might be worth a try re. sponsorship :-)
12:14:42<tommorris>yep, i pestered him about it a while back. :)
12:22:26<danbri>tommorris, what're the dates?
12:46:34<sbp>hmm
12:46:58<sbp>what would you (yes you) call the inverse of the chain of log:semantics and log:uri?
12:47:42<sbp>in other words, ?G is log:semantics of [ log:uri ?URI ]
12:48:01<sbp>what name would you give to ?G :property ?URI?
12:48:22<sbp>I've been thinking of source, or sourceURI, or...
12:48:37<EtnaRosso>sbp what log stands for?
12:48:40<sbp>yeah, I think I like sourceURI most of all
12:48:53<sbp>EtnaRosso: http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#
13:11:04<tommorris>iand: any chance I can get a yay or nay on sponsorship for SemanticCamp?
15:36:53<stain>If I have <http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/protege-dc.owl#format> - is it then the same as http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/format defined in http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/protege-dc.owl ? If so - how?
15:38:17<EtnaRosso>i can't understand you question
15:38:59<EtnaRosso>probably it is different, because they have different uris
15:39:00<stain>all right.. I have some ontology that uses http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/protege-dc.owl#format and I'm trying to figure out what that's supposed to mean
15:39:35<sbp>so your best bet is to look at how http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/protege-dc.owl defines it
15:40:00<sbp>oh, it doesn't
15:40:05<stain>exactly
15:40:18<sbp>and http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/protege-dc.owl is text/plain anyway
15:40:28<stain>but it does define http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/format which makes me wonder if perhaps the ontology designer has mixed imports and namespaces
15:40:36<stain>(she's on holiday, of course, so I can't ask her)
15:40:37<sbp>yeah, almost certainly
15:40:54<sbp>but then why http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/dc/protege-dc.owl#format should be used instead of http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/format is a mystery
15:41:00<sbp>it's not wrong to do that, but it's pretty bizarre
15:42:29<stain>hm, actually this is not mentioned in the ontologies, it's just in the data in what I would think is not according to the dc-format anyway
15:42:32<stain>j0:format "wsdl"
15:44:30<stain>I really hate this.. someone started with some "We must use RDF!" mantra 4 years ago, and now everyone who did that has left the project and I'm left with the leftovers :)
17:54:25<danbri>ah, I think you have some version of Dublin Core which Protege/DL people cooked up, to work better with their tools (but at expense of interop with wider world)
18:58:27<timbl>stain .., what is the project?
18:59:14<timbl>(Reading back, sounds as though you should call the ontology designer on holiday :-)
19:07:24<kidehen>danbri: u there?
19:08:23<kidehen>phenny, tell danbri: please ping me when you have a minute (irc or skype)
19:08:26<phenny>kidehen: I'll pass that on when danbri is around.
20:17:04<lemixtape>hey
20:17:38<lemixtape>i got a little problem on my hand and I was wondering if anyone could help out
20:22:53<TedThibodeauJr>lemixtape - people tend to idle for long stretches ... but if you ask your SemWeb related question (note the topic...), someone will often anwer within a few hours

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