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| 00:40:37 | <dajobe> | C:|Joost page with RDFa |
| 00:41:05 | <dajobe> | hmm, reminds me I must tell dom how to run raptor in the strict grddl mode. |
| 06:38:55 | <bengee> | ACTION receives a "we are taking the necessary steps to deal with semanticwebs.com" mail from technorati |
| 06:39:13 | <dajobe> | I got an email from them to 'join' |
| 06:39:23 | <bengee> | yeah, me too |
| 06:39:26 | <dajobe> | it's turned into a 1-entry blog |
| 06:40:10 | <bengee> | oh |
| 06:42:03 | <bengee> | still no imprint or author info... |
| 06:44:31 | <dajobe> | clearly they are still mining planetrdf & nearby |
| 11:58:12 | <tommorris> | DanC: the travel app you've built - have you got a screenshot of the output that I can copy-paste in to a BarCamp talk? |
| 11:59:23 | <tommorris> | Oh, wait, found it. |
| 15:11:51 | <runa> | hey |
| 18:56:24 | <DanC> | now *that* is just too cool. http://ryanlee.org/2007/08/decide.html |
| 19:22:54 | <mhausenblas> | DanC: true ;) |
| 19:35:16 | <DanC> | ACTION studies some rif... http://triplr.org/turtle/http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m463ee19a |
| 19:35:25 | <DanC> | based on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2007Aug/0049.html |
| 19:38:56 | <DanC> | "unordered collection mechanism in ASN07, written |
| 19:38:56 | <DanC> | using the Kleene operators (*,+,?)" |
| 19:39:06 | <DanC> | odd... Klene * is usually ordered |
| 19:39:38 | <mhausenblas> | DanC: Something completely different - you are uF-affine, right? |
| 19:40:01 | <DanC> | not sure I get the question, but I guess so |
| 19:40:40 | <mhausenblas> | We had a discussion about good practice document for RDFa, recently |
| 19:41:35 | <mhausenblas> | see -> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-irc#T15-18-34 |
| 19:42:52 | <DanC> | them's fightin' words: "Microformats done right" |
| 19:45:17 | <mhausenblas> | that's why I#d like to ask you to somehow contribute :) |
| 19:45:24 | <DanC> | ok, I skimmed it. did you have a question? |
| 19:45:59 | <DanC> | my 1st contribution is: don't phrase it as "Microformats done right", which says that microformats are currently done wrong. |
| 19:46:04 | <mhausenblas> | I proposed a ESWiki ape and start off with uF that have a voc as hCard, etc. |
| 19:46:23 | <mhausenblas> | ok. but that was an easy one ;) |
| 19:46:50 | <mhausenblas> | s/ape/page |
| 19:47:12 | <DanC> | do you want hCard examples? I can help you find those... though I expect you can find them yourself. |
| 19:47:51 | <DanC> | if you want to convert hCard examples to use RDFa, that doesn't appeal to me much. |
| 19:47:56 | <mhausenblas> | well thanks. rahter thought about contributing to the Wiki page in terms of, say, reviewing what I put there? |
| 19:48:09 | <DanC> | ok. reviewing is easy enough |
| 19:48:21 | <mhausenblas> | s/ rahter/rather |
| 19:48:46 | <mhausenblas> | that's great, thanks |
| 19:49:01 | <DanC> | by the way... I'm kinda annoyed by the recent rdfa.info postings that celebrate RDFa usage but don't point out that the usage is broken |
| 19:49:17 | <DanC> | i.e. http://rdfa.info/2007/08/23/rdfa-in-the-wild/ |
| 19:49:26 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION blushes |
| 19:49:33 | <mhausenblas> | which one is borken? |
| 19:49:38 | <DanC> | oops... not that posting... |
| 19:49:46 | <DanC> | this one http://rdfa.info/2007/08/23/joost-using-rdfa-on-website/ |
| 19:50:04 | <DanC> | the joost page (http://www.joost.com/0440008 ) bears a doctype that it doesn't match |
| 19:50:29 | <DanC> | and the media type is text/html |
| 19:51:08 | <mhausenblas> | mhm. gotta have a look at it and fix it ... |
| 19:52:13 | <mhausenblas> | seems that the original post from Mark (http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2007/07/rdfa-used-in-joost.html) also refers to an invalid HTML+RDFa page :( |
| 19:52:20 | <DanC> | has the taskforce chosen an RDFa profile URI or a transformation URI yet? |
| 19:52:41 | <DanC> | right; Steven P's post just points to Mark's |
| 19:52:59 | <mhausenblas> | might be that DanB and his team from Joost still adapting RDFa |
| 19:53:19 | <mhausenblas> | yeah, but Steven has another example AFAIK ... |
| 19:53:34 | <DanC> | ACTION hunts for the issues list... gets as far as http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/ ... |
| 19:53:39 | <DanC> | ACTION finds http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/ ... |
| 19:53:44 | <mhausenblas> | regarding profiloe URI |
| 19:53:55 | <mhausenblas> | gotta look up ... |
| 19:54:08 | <DanC> | hmm... I thought there was an issue about a profile URI... |
| 19:54:22 | <DanC> | maybe it's under follow-your-nose http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28 |
| 19:54:52 | <DanC> | issue still seems to be open |
| 19:55:06 | <mhausenblas> | well Ralph had an action IIRC and we more or less resolved it :) gimme a sec to find it ... |
| 19:57:03 | <DanC> | I'd like joost to get rid of their DTD (or use the nifty <!DOCTYPE > from HTML 5) and add a profile. Then both GRDDL and RDFa tools would grok. |
| 19:58:06 | <mhausenblas> | mhm. right. so the action was http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action15 |
| 20:02:24 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION can't find the resolution, but IIRC it was a rather short URI like w3.org/ns/rdfa# |
| 20:02:29 | <mhausenblas> | ehy! it |
| 20:02:37 | <mhausenblas> | is even there http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa/ ... |
| 20:03:09 | <DanC> | no grddl pointer |
| 20:03:24 | <DanC> | nothing about status either; that's unlike Ralph |
| 20:03:32 | <mhausenblas> | yeah. not yet. but a first step ... |
| 20:03:55 | <mhausenblas> | you know. things take a while at standardisation bodies :)) |
| 20:03:59 | <DanC> | ACTION sees it wasn't RalphS that committed that HTML document |
| 20:04:08 | <mhausenblas> | but who? |
| 20:04:13 | <DanC> | so it does look like the URI is chosen |
| 20:04:18 | <DanC> | one of the webmasters |
| 20:05:00 | <mhausenblas> | ok. I'll bug people to get this done (ok. first ask Ralph :) |
| 20:05:36 | <mhausenblas> | ACTION thinks it is late already ... gotta catch some sleep (our newborn is here first day/night) |
| 20:05:39 | <mhausenblas> | bye |
| 20:59:22 | <runa> | I've been reading about URIs, and I don't understand how I'll choose a URI to identify a person and other developers will choose the same. For example, I think a URL for paris hilton might be: http://thing-described-by.org/?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton . what do you think? does this makes any sense? |
| 21:08:19 | <kwijibo> | runa: have you read the Linked Open Data tutorial? |
| 21:19:33 | <runa> | I don't think so. linkeddata.org/ ? |
| 21:21:39 | <runa> | kwijibo: thanks |
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