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| 12:17:33 | <ericP> | phenny, tell me something good |
| 12:17:35 | <phenny> | Hey, I'm not as stupid as Monty you know! |
| 12:17:37 | <phenny> | ericP: 21 Jul 22:39Z <chimezie> tell ericP that if he is still interested in auto-generation of SPARQL facet XPath tests, I have a script (http://pygments.org/demo/400/?style=native) which I used to generate all the "core" permutations from the grammar (http://rafb.net/p/JZdi3Q54.html). It could be used to generate corresponding XPath patterns as well |
| 16:20:39 | <tommorris> | research.talis.com seems to be timing out on me, and it makes triplr run slowly when parsing an eRDF page. |
| 16:21:21 | <tommorris> | just in case any talis people are about - it would be quite useful. ;) |
| 16:32:33 | <tommorris> | Is there any formalised idea of what should be the subject of triples that have been GRDDLed? |
| 16:33:06 | <tommorris> | Or rather, where one should get the data from of what document is currently being transformed? |
| 17:32:47 | <ericP> | chimezie, around? |
| 17:33:48 | <chimezie> | yes, I'm here (sorta) |
| 17:34:27 | <ericP> | howdy |
| 17:34:31 | <chimezie> | tommorris: the subject defaults (by several paths) to the retrieval URI |
| 17:34:42 | <chimezie> | so this is the 'assumed' subject unless otherwise specified (in content) |
| 17:34:46 | <chimezie> | hey there |
| 17:34:49 | <ericP> | am thinking about how to lable exhaustive tests vs. those that test for existance of features |
| 17:34:53 | <tommorris> | okay, |
| 17:35:21 | <tommorris> | I've just published a GRDDL transform at http://rdf.opiumfield.com/grddl/nsfw.xsl |
| 17:35:30 | <chimezie> | the latter being those that only test syntax? |
| 17:36:17 | <ericP> | latter to make sure someone does UNION, but not necessarily UNION withing an OPTION in a GraphGraphPattern |
| 17:36:51 | <tommorris> | a GRDDL processor will presumably take back the RDF/XML I return, load it in to a memory model and then turn any triples with a subject of <> to the URI of the originating document. |
| 17:37:34 | <chimezie> | "regression" vs "unit" test? |
| 17:37:36 | <ericP> | ACTION would also like to talk about HCLS questionnaire, but afraid chimezie is already juggling enough conversations |
| 17:38:18 | <chimezie> | tommorris: yes, unless you have: @xml:base, /html/head/base, or the server returned a 30(2/3) |
| 17:38:36 | <ericP> | chimezie, dunno. my intuition was that unit test was more thorough than our what i meant by "feature" tests |
| 17:38:38 | <chimezie> | now is a good time, my rugrats are sleeping :) |
| 17:38:45 | <ericP> | sweet! |
| 17:39:20 | <ericP> | i was sorta talked out of s/integrate/coordinate/ on some, but here are the categories i have now: |
| 17:39:32 | <tommorris> | I hope the URL param in my XSL won't fsck anything up. Or would I be better served by removing it and letting the processor sort it out? |
| 17:39:47 | <ericP> | Integrate health care term sets (e.g. HL7, LOINC) |
| 17:39:47 | <ericP> | Integrate health care ontologies (e.g. SNOMED CT, openEHR, GALEN) |
| 17:39:50 | <ericP> | Coordinate healthcare rulesets with ongoing effort towards rule standards(e.g. LOA Medical Theories) |
| 17:39:53 | <ericP> | . |
| 17:40:23 | <ericP> | got a better idea than term set? |
| 17:41:14 | <ericP> | (if i understand from susie and you, HL7 and LOINC give coded terms for things, but no connection between them) |
| 17:41:28 | <chimezie> | ericP: yes! |
| 17:41:49 | <chimezie> | term sets actually is much better than controlled vocabulary, I think |
| 17:42:42 | <chimezie> | LOINC, CPT, and such are mostly flattened sets of coded terms, there is no 'formal' connection |
| 17:42:49 | <chimezie> | they mostly drive pick lists |
| 17:43:03 | <chimezie> | that phrasing above works |
| 17:43:32 | <chimezie> | ACTION points tommorris to jeremy carrols excellent work on XSLT modules for GRDDL processing: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/library |
| 17:43:58 | <tommorris> | thank you. |
| 17:44:06 | <chimezie> | np |
| 17:44:16 | <ericP> | chimezie, final check of http://www.w3.org/2007/06/HCLSForm#healthCare ? |
| 17:44:39 | <chimezie> | okay |
| 17:45:29 | <chimezie> | looks good =) |
| 17:47:08 | <chimezie> | in particular http://www.w3.org/2003/g/xml-attributes was meant to be imported to handle situations such as BaseURI processing |
| 18:27:40 | <ericP> | what's an RDF type for a project (like a software project)? |
| 18:28:04 | <tommorris> | ericP: DOAP - Description of a Project |
| 18:28:13 | <ericP> | aaahya, tx |
| 18:28:21 | <tommorris> | see http://usefulinc.com/doap/ |
| 18:29:52 | <ericP> | cool, schema is poly-lingual! |
| 19:55:28 | <recluxus> | hi ihave to write a xml schema defining email data. i have "body may contain arbitrary markup from any XML namespace" , what's that suppose to mean ? |
| 20:05:11 | <ericP> | maybe it's considered self-describing (agent will recognize certain xml namespace/localname root pairs), or maybe it relies on auxilliary data, like a mime-type, to determine how the body should be interpreted |
| 20:12:56 | <tommorris> | or it could be a CDATA section - like how we put tag soup HTML into Atom/RSS etc. |
| 20:17:32 | <c> | http://bigdata.cvs.sourceforge.net/bigdata/bigdata-rdf/src/java/com/bigdata/rdf/ |
| 21:54:16 | <tommorris> | http://tommorris.org/profiles/nsfw |
| 21:54:34 | <tommorris> | B|:Not Safe For Work (Tom Morris) |
| 21:54:58 | <tommorris> | B:|Not Safe For Work (Tom Morris) |
| 21:55:06 | <tommorris> | never remember the syntax for titles. :( |
| 21:55:11 | <tommorris> | B: A GRDDL profile that lets you mark up links as not safe for work. |
| 21:55:34 | <tommorris> | B: GRDDL allows you to resolve 'cross-cultural' issues too - my 'not safe' may be different from yours. |
| 22:33:07 | <tommorris> | danja_: research.talis.com is not responding. |
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