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| 15:04:43 | <DanC> | yvesr, so http://moustaki.org/swic/ is another linked data implementation? do we have a list of those in the wiki? |
| 15:04:50 | <DanC> | and are you going to the WWW2007 workshop? |
| 15:05:24 | <yvesr> | DanC: I am not:-( |
| 15:05:37 | <yvesr> | and, yes, it is another linked data implementation:-) |
| 15:06:01 | <DanC> | does it do GRDDL, by chance? |
| 15:07:18 | <yvesr> | well, it relies heavily on SWI rdf parser |
| 15:07:30 | <yvesr> | and SWI does not support it so far |
| 15:07:53 | <DanC> | do you know where SWI rdf parser request-for-enchancements belong? |
| 15:07:54 | <yvesr> | but, well, in a near future... :-) |
| 15:08:18 | <yvesr> | yes - there has been some discussion about it on the ML recently |
| 15:08:55 | <DanC> | I'd appreciate a link to such discussions from http://esw.w3.org/topic/GrddlImplementations |
| 15:10:13 | <yvesr> | well - it is still in the *early* stages:-) by that, I mean that it has been mentionned once so far I think |
| 15:10:53 | <DanC> | still, I'd appreciate a link... something like "discussion of a GRDDL implementation in swi prolog has begun" |
| 15:12:26 | <DanC> | ACTION doesn't see linked data among www2007 workshops. http://www2007.org/prog-Workshops.php |
| 15:12:31 | <DanC> | maybe it's a dev-day session? |
| 15:12:37 | <DanC> | dev-track... |
| 15:13:11 | <yvesr> | btw, is grddl specific to xslt transformation from any xml doc to rdf/xml? |
| 15:14:20 | <yvesr> | or can is there a mean to plug anything to get from any kind of doc to rdf/xml? |
| 15:15:29 | <DanC> | it's theoretically possible to use other transformation languages than XSLT, but I haven't seen it done much |
| 15:17:19 | <DanC> | http://www2007.org/prog-Developers.php#friday |
| 15:17:52 | <DanC> | A:|Linked Data in the Developers Track at WWW2007 |
| 15:18:46 | <DanC> | A:Friday, 11 May 10:30-06:00 for 1H30 |
| 15:19:16 | <DanC> | A:see also [http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html|linked data design note] by timbl, [http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/Help|tabulator] |
| 15:19:49 | <DanC> | A:is there a list of linked data implementations in the wiki? [http://esw.w3.org/topic/NetworkedData|NetworkedData] sounds close |
| 15:21:02 | <DanC> | A:[http://del.icio.us/connolly/www2007+semantic+web|bookmarked under www2007+semantic+web] |
| 15:26:08 | <danja> | ericP, you ok for www2007? |
| 15:26:31 | <DanC> | danja, seen this "Geo extension - new template on Wikipedia" discussion? http://www.mail-archive.com/microformats-discuss@microformats.org/msg07345.html |
| 15:26:53 | <danja> | not yet - thanks DanC |
| 15:26:57 | <DanC> | oh. non-terrestrial. hmm. |
| 15:27:00 | <ericP> | danja, i'm scheduled to attend and present. is this for chairing or some other responsibility? |
| 15:27:39 | <danja> | just checking you'll be there ;-) |
| 15:28:09 | <DanC> | ACTION suffers a firefox crash when posting the wikipedia geo thing to delicious. :-/ |
| 15:29:26 | <danja> | does that mean the open street map folks will be cycling around the canals of mars..? |
| 15:31:51 | <danja> | phew, those discussion pages are a nightmare |
| 15:35:33 | <danja> | is Oliver Thereaux present? (dunno nick) |
| 15:37:26 | <danja> | no EliasT? grr, means I've got to post a mail anyhow |
| 15:44:08 | <dajobe> | hmm, must think about www2007 planning |
| 15:44:18 | <dajobe> | step 1. get there. step 2. ???? step 3. profit! |
| 15:45:15 | <danja> | ;-) |
| 15:46:28 | <danja> | I'll buy you a beer as a start towards step 3. |
| 15:46:40 | <dajobe> | I think I might go to the tagging workshop |
| 15:53:28 | <dajobe> | I guess I don't need to go to a mashup tutorial |
| 15:54:05 | <dajobe> | ahh, so that's what Harry was doing the other day |
| 16:11:14 | <LotR> | how is getting drunk a step towards profit? |
| 16:52:26 | <yvesr> | DanC: i have just been playing with implementing grddl whithin the SWI semweb package: it doesn't seem that hard - I am already able to parse most of http://www.w3.org/2003/12/rdf-in-xhtml-xslts/complete-example.html |
| 16:52:39 | <yvesr> | well, still some work to do though:-) |
| 16:53:15 | <DanC> | cool, yvesr ! |
| 21:25:33 | <er4z0r> | hi folks |
| 21:26:36 | <er4z0r> | Little question about RDF: When do I use <rdf:Description rdf:about and whe do I sue rdf:Description rdf:ID ? |
| 21:26:52 | <er4z0r> | s/sue/use/g |
| 21:27:34 | <DanC> | always use rdf:about. (unless you want a much longer answer) |
| 21:31:27 | <er4z0r> | DanC: hmm, as I understood it, rdf:about means "i am referring to the EXISTING resource balbla" while rdf:ID defines resource blabla. So using rdf:about will propably cause no trouble when blabla is already defined while rdf:ID would be a "redefinition". As this situation might not be seldom in the WWW using rdf:about will cause less pain. |
| 21:31:36 | <er4z0r> | DanC: Deduction correct? |
| 21:32:27 | <DanC> | sorta |
| 21:33:08 | <DanC> | the only difference between rdf:ID and rdf:about is syntax. there is no semantic difference. rdf:ID provides some guard against duplication at the XML level |
| 21:33:21 | <DanC> | but otherwise, rdf:ID="foo" is exactly the same as rdf:about="#foo". |
| 21:34:08 | <DanC> | both of them refer to ....#foo , and hence, assert that it exists. |
| 21:34:39 | <DanC> | (that's the longer answer) |
| 21:36:40 | <er4z0r> | DanC: ok, thank you. |
| 21:37:31 | <er4z0r> | ACTION has to do a presentation on RDF tomorrow |
| 21:37:40 | <er4z0r> | just ruling out potential pitfalls |
| 21:40:48 | <DanC> | where are you presenting? can you say? |
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