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| 10:49:26 | <simon__> | Hi, is anyone available for a short chat about SIOC? |
| 10:50:23 | <simon__> | I'm interested in using for modeling a generic online agent that can consolidate a persons online presence |
| 11:01:00 | <simon__> | This is actually for an university undergraduate coursework, we're to model a set of robot behaviours using an ontology (we're using Protege). I decided to model a web agent instead of something more conventional. I'm very new to ontologies/semantic web, however it does look intriguing and extremely useful. Your SIOC framework seems to be the best developed for social aspects of someones online presence |
| 11:02:12 | <simon__> | Does anyone know of any projects that currently using SIOC to consolidate an online social presence? |
| 22:12:12 | <CaptSolo> | hi |
| 22:12:43 | <CaptSolo> | simon__: interesting re. work you are doing |
| 22:13:43 | <CaptSolo> | simon__: SIOC would allow you to describe online activities of such an agent |
| 22:13:49 | <CaptSolo> | content it has produced, etc. |
| 22:14:26 | <CaptSolo> | perhaps you would need to add some new properties specific to what you want to describe about online agents |
| 22:14:42 | <CaptSolo> | which is specific to this project and which i would not know about |
| 22:15:01 | <CaptSolo> | simon__: but talking about online presence, check out the work on OPO |
| 22:15:08 | <CaptSolo> | the Online Presence Ontology |
| 22:15:56 | <simon__> | Hi, thanks for the tip |
| 22:16:24 | <CaptSolo> | simon__: you can find a paper about it at http://sdow2008.semanticweb.org/ |
| 22:16:37 | <CaptSolo> | "Modeling Online Presence" |
| 22:16:54 | <simon__> | yeah i was think of add a small behaviour layer to work with the core and some of the modules |
| 22:16:59 | <CaptSolo> | also welcome to ask this question on the SIOC-Dev mailing list |
| 22:17:11 | <CaptSolo> | perhaps you see more replies than on IRC on Sunday evening :) |
| 22:17:55 | <CaptSolo> | would be interesting to see what are the online agent-specific things that you would need to add |
| 22:18:12 | <CaptSolo> | the behavioural layer you mentioned |
| 22:18:29 | <CaptSolo> | so keep us updated on how it goes |
| 22:18:46 | <CaptSolo> | or if there are more questions |
| 22:21:33 | <simon__> | thanks for your help. Indeed it would be very interesting, hopefully I'll get to investigate further. Universities these days are way too obsessed with assessment, the project this is for is relatively small and there's little spare time, but I think I found something I'd like to explore a lot more thoroughly. |
| 22:22:56 | <CaptSolo> | sounds good :) |
| 22:23:29 | <CaptSolo> | reminds of how i chose a SemWeb theme for my master's but it grew larger than that |
| 22:23:58 | <simon__> | that does seem to be a problem: where do you stop? |
| 22:24:12 | <CaptSolo> | i mean good re "something I'd like to explore a lot more thoroughly" |
| 22:24:34 | <CaptSolo> | in which case you are welcome to explre as much as you want and see if you come up with some interesting applications, etc. |
| 22:24:42 | <CaptSolo> | i like to explore so i don't try to stop |
| 22:24:57 | <CaptSolo> | but sometimes still need to focus on one thing |
| 22:25:19 | <simon__> | never enough time in the day, right? |
| 22:25:27 | <CaptSolo> | and you may have limited time that can be devoted to this, so have to deicde when to stop |
| 22:26:01 | <CaptSolo> | or find a place who will ask you to do such exploration full time :) |
| 22:26:30 | <CaptSolo> | never enough time, that's so true |
| 22:26:44 | <simon__> | yeah, I have exams right now, but they'll be over soon, this summer (I'm in the UK) should be a good time for exploration |
| 22:26:59 | <CaptSolo> | ACTION can imagine much more that could be done with SIOC and its applications... |
| 22:27:11 | <CaptSolo> | how for along are you with your studies? |
| 22:27:16 | <simon__> | I'm set up to do some NLP work related to key word extraction from web sites |
| 22:27:29 | <CaptSolo> | hmmm... |
| 22:27:49 | <CaptSolo> | you might be interested in research in DERI (www.deri.ie) |
| 22:27:50 | <simon__> | 2nd year Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence undergrad |
| 22:28:02 | <CaptSolo> | which is where i am studying |
| 22:28:42 | <CaptSolo> | colleagues in other clusters are doing NLP, web mining, etc. |
| 22:28:58 | <CaptSolo> | ACTION is in the Social Software Unit, concentrating on SIOC |
| 22:29:45 | <CaptSolo> | what university are you studying at? |
| 22:29:55 | <simon__> | Sussex |
| 22:30:46 | <simon__> | Used to be a big research player, but bad management over the past ten odd years doesn't seem to have done it justice... |
| 22:31:04 | <CaptSolo> | still there must be interesting things happening where you are |
| 22:31:25 | <CaptSolo> | but if you are interested in those topics you may want to check internship or other research opportunities at DERI |
| 22:31:31 | <CaptSolo> | can be a good experience |
| 22:32:12 | <CaptSolo> | considering you are looking at SIOC |
| 22:32:21 | <simon__> | yeah, there's some cool stuff do to with the science of consciousness I've been recently interested in. Thanks I'll look into DERI, might be a good place to look at for doing a masters |
| 22:32:38 | <CaptSolo> | Milan, the author of OPO, works together with DERI |
| 22:33:15 | <CaptSolo> | though he is based in another institute in Paris and visits us once in a while |
| 22:33:33 | <CaptSolo> | gotta go now. see you around. |
| 22:33:50 | <simon__> | thanks again |
| 22:34:02 | <CaptSolo> | you're welcome |
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