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03:58:32<mightybyte>Is it safe to delete all but the most recent checkpoint file in the happstack state directory?
03:59:02<mightybyte>My understanding is that it is, but I just wanted to make sure I understand it right.
17:57:16<gcollins>mightybyte: the first thing I do when I fetch happstack from darcs is to add "-O -p" to bin/build-install-all.sh
17:57:27<gcollins>do you think that would be a sane thing to make default?
17:58:00<gwern>no. because hapsptack depends on a lot of other libraries
17:58:05<gwern>which are not guaranteed to be profled
17:58:20<gwern>it'd break for just about anyone using build-install-all.sh
17:58:27<gwern>better to have a separate script if you must
18:07:21<gcollins>hm.
18:07:41<gcollins>good point -- but "-O" would be a saner default, no?
18:11:48<gwern>-O, be optimization, yes?
18:12:10<gwern>cabal already turns -O on by default. it's -O2 that cabal doesn't do
18:14:15<gcollins>Does it really? Are you sure about that?
18:14:27<gcollins>I'm willing to take your word for it :)
18:15:29<gwern>it used to be -O2, but people complained about slowness and dcoutts turned it odnw
18:23:11<sm>my cabal --help says it does
18:23:28<sm>-O
18:29:15<gcollins>ok.
18:39:40<sm>gcollins: were you looking for the HP mac installer ?
18:39:47<sm>for testers for ?
18:51:28<sm>ah, found it
19:11:39<mightybyte>Yeah, it was a pain recompiling everything with -p. We don't want to inflict that on developers/testers who aren't concerned about such things.
19:25:52<gcollins>sm: yep
19:26:16<gcollins>It "worked for me" but people have reported problems already
19:26:31<sm>hi.. yes I just posted on-list about failing in haddock postinst
19:26:48<sm>any idea how to see a more verbose log ?
19:28:53<gcollins>command-L in the installer
19:28:59<gcollins>then select "show all logs"
19:29:05<gcollins>i would really like to see that output!
19:29:47<sm>cool, will try
19:34:09<sm>gcollins: mailed it to you
19:34:20<gcollins>Thanks very much! I appreciate it.
19:34:32<gcollins>Bug reports coming in will help me get a new installer out faster
19:35:26<gcollins>This project has been a Sisyphusian task for sure -- I hate the engineer at Apple who came up with this stuff with the white-hot passion of a thousand burning suns
19:36:30<gwern>I always pity you apple users
19:36:39<gwern>why do you inflict this on yourselves?
19:36:43<gcollins>Normally OSX is great and I really like it
19:36:58<sm>it sounds painful. I sure appreciate your working on it. Sounds like an expert mac developer would be useful, I wonder if you'd find on on #macosx or somewhere
19:37:13<gcollins>sm: that might be my next move
19:37:29<sm>there's also the mac developer mail lists
19:37:51<gcollins>gwern: a lot of things about OSX "just work" in a way that I could only dream of having on my arch linux machines
19:37:54<sm>but let me know if I can do something else to help
19:38:03<gcollins>sm: thanks
19:38:11<sm>once haskell things work with a click on mac, there'll be more support
19:38:18<gcollins>agreed
19:38:20<sm>to polish it up, I expect
19:44:48<tibbe_>who here asked about sendFile support a while ago?
19:54:30<gcollins>tibbe_: most of us :)
19:54:35<gcollins>or several, anyways
19:54:36<gcollins>myself included
19:55:05<tibbe_>network-bytestring has sendfile for unix now
19:55:13<gcollins>coool
19:55:18<tibbe_>waiting someone to write the 15 or so lines for windows
19:55:22<tibbe_>for TransmitFile
19:55:24<gcollins>two thumbs up
22:48:26<dancor>ghc dies when i try to compile darcs happstack-state with profiling
22:49:16<dancor>http://moonpatio.com:8080/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=2547#a2547
22:49:19<dancor>is it just me
23:45:35<dancor>hm, compiling http://src.seereason.com/happstack-extra gives me overlapping instance b.s.
23:46:40<dancor>oh, that's related to parsec3
23:48:58<dancor>a few commented-out type-declarations later, it builds!

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